Author Topic: WW2 online corners the market? (Read 1105 times)

LaVa · « **on:** March 08, 2001, 12:41:00 AM »

First, let me say that HTC has done a brillant job of creating a ww2 flight sim. The models feel correct <i am a real pilot> with a few exceptions. Of course, this is a work in progress, hard to tell sometimes with the recent lack of news, etc. I personally think that HTC is squezzing every bit of the cotton between their...? because of the progress of ww2online.

Let me put it into a business prospective...if ww2online actually makes it out, then HTC might be in trouble. Everybody i know wants to play ww2, it promises everything that a ww2 fan wants.

In a perfect world HTC would be designing the Flight models for ww2, but that isnt the case.

If ww2 comes out with 75% of what it promises, then AcesHigh, along with all the other ww2 stuff is going to be hit hard! Bottom line, no ifs ands or Butts!

I havnt meet one person that hasnt said that he/she will NOT try ww2.

Better charge 29.95 while you can..ill pay it.

Btw, whats the average life expectancy of an online game? I would guess forever if they keep updating it ? ?

Thanks...and good luck HTC:>

LaVa

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2001, 12:45:00 AM »

Oh boy, look, another WW2OL thread that really should be posted in the O'Club as opposed to here

Pongo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2001, 12:46:00 AM »

recent lack of news. what the F are you talking about. We have lots of news and a new verion out soon. What a pathetic troll. Coundnt get a taker on channel one so you brought it here eh...
If ww2 online only has early war planes I wont be there.
"I really like AH but I cant resist droping this pathetic destructive troll and see what happens."
APD
Theres your answer.

Yeager · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2001, 01:02:00 AM »

Yeah...some business will leave but thats not entirely bad. Might up the maturity level in the MA a notch or two.

Should go off topic for sure.

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LaVa · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2001, 01:20:00 AM »

Easy easy..hey pongo, no need to bring your dungeons and dragons in here with ya. Take it easy kid.

Just a thought....

<lifts up his flame shield>

I quess i really should'nt be concerned with what happens. Cuss this little troll gonna have fun.

LaVa · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2001, 01:23:00 AM »

Sorry about putting this in the wrong slot.

O well..lets hear about

tshred · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2001, 03:33:00 AM »

AH will have nothing to fear from WWII Online. They are two different games, one focused on the air war, one on the whole war. If you want to really enjoy WWII Online IMO, you will have to change your flying style and the object is mainly to increase rank, live and help your side win the war. A far cry from the everday happenings in the MA here in AH.

Yes I will fly both, but I can't see spending much time in WWII O for a while, as it will be stuck in the BoB for quite sometime I believe. Plus, it is totally mission oriented, and I might not be able to schedule my time online to take advantage of the mission profiles I might be interested in. So I end up here in AH jumping into whatever I feel like flying that day at that moment. And having one hell of a time doing it too.

We shall see, but I can't see it having much of a lasting effect on AH.

ts

Creamo · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2001, 04:23:00 AM »

The models feel correct <i am a real pilot> with a few exceptions.

Lemme guess. Aerobatics, and military ACM training emphasizing BFM, and training to survive real aerial combat? These exceptions?

Duh. You better not be tracking VOR's on auto pilot, staring at EFIS screens and making posts like you have a pedestal and expertise on sims. Or worse, looking at the horizon in a 150, feeling all bird like in your VFR trainer.

I will say Ill pay without a thought for both sims. No prob. That means HTC loses one less, I just gain one more fun hobby software online.

Thing is, as much as I want WWIIOL to be all that it wishes it could, it will be a outdated graphic mess, if it makes it out by next year at all. At least Falcon 4.0 looks kick bellybutton even today.

Cornered Rat Software prove me wrong, I want to send them money and have fun on thier sever.

I just doubt it like the Cub's making the playoffs. Plenty of guys wish, and they all are crushed in the end. Good idea, but the past is so telling.

Ghosth · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2001, 05:20:00 AM »

Have you looked at what WWIIOL is going to have for a planeset for the first 6 months?

Spit mk1, Hurri mk1, Bristol Blenheim.
bf 109, bf110, ju-87, ju-52, he111.
Curtis Hawk H-75 (Early p40 variant)

Thats it, period, until they open the next theatre.

Compare that to what people are currently flying in AH. Yes I expect most people will try WWIIOL IF it comes out this year. However, how many will pay 30$ for the box, Plus 10$ a month to fly those planes????

Sorry I don't see the furballers leaveing in droves. Not to mention, until it's actually on my HD it's all talk.

Wegaman · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2001, 06:50:00 AM »

actually i see the Furballers STAYING with AH, because it's all air. In WW2online they wont find enemeys everywhere. I would rather fly historical planes in historical maps doing historical stuff than see p51's fight f4u's.

Kieran · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2001, 07:50:00 AM »

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Everybody i know wants to play ww2, it promises everything that a ww2 fan wants.

Wrong. If I have to do anything anyone tells me to do when I am online it is not what I want. I am a WWII fan, unless you have a definition I don't know of. Having read the WWIIOnline board has been telling. No General Balo's for me, thank you very much.

Westy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2001, 07:56:00 AM »

Damn, Kieran you picked the exact part I was going to quote. lol And you said it better than I would have.

I'd only add that in addition to all the litle Napoleoans and snipers there is this enourmous preponderance of "idjits" who post asking why all the soldiers are white, who name and model themselves after SS units that were infamous for murder and atrocities, wwho want to know if they'll be able to dive thier planes into groups of people, or ram other in tanks, planes or ship, why they must have kill shooter on - no not because they think it'll be kEwL to shoot thier own (eye roll) yeah right - but because they find that was more realistic. To top it off they have "Avenger" there.

The sys spec minimums are almost twice what AH is. And many of the folks who pissed on AH as being impossible to work with are hanging out waiting for WW2O to arrive. With the same unit they couldn't get AH to run with.

The list goes on. I'm making my own tummy churn just writiing this....

I'll try WWIIO, but my synicsm is with the player base not being up to par in my eyes. Not the program itself.

I give it 6-10 mos after open beta before it has more easy mode features than AH or WB's does so it will appease the relaxed/arcade realism crowds.

I predict that WW2O will have ten times the amount of conflict between the free for all, independant types and neo-military types than we ever had here. And there will even be a hellofalot of tension between the neo-military types themselves as they all berate each other for not doing it right, claimiong they could have done it better and the inevitatble "who the hell put you in charge? My squad is doing what it wants regardless of what you say. See you in Berlinin two days!".

-Westy

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Heater · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2001, 07:59:00 AM »

All I can say is Have Fun cya~!

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Mark Luper · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2001, 08:06:00 AM »

WWIIOL does promise a lot. I personaly don't see it happening any time soon. Early war plane sets are not to my liking as a general rule though they are interesting on occasion. I have also perused the message board over there and I just can't get interested in the topics I've seen. Vaporware does not hold me for long.

I do hope it succeeds but if I have to buy a boxed game to try it I probably never will. A mission oriented only situation does not sit well with me either. I like to go up on the spur of the moment and just fly around sometimes and chat with the other players.

I'm not that good in here so I see no sense in not being good somewhere else too

. I do think it will affect AH, but I don't think it will be for long and I don't see it closing HTC's doors either.

lazs · « **Reply #14 on:** March 08, 2001, 08:25:00 AM »

weg... if all people wanted was "historical" planesets they could just go to WB. All the same fites all the time.

WWII online might be neat but I don't know how they will get enough people to wait or coordinate to make it work. It will be interesting to see. a lot of The people that will be attracted will not be noted for patience or teamplay.... something it would seem the sim would need.
lazs