ENY

[BnZs]

It sounds to me like this buff dweeb, through bravely enduring the tedium of bomber flying, saved you from spending a few minutes of your precious life on a super-quick town grab MISHUN!!! whose tedium is only exceeded by that of watching cars turn left for several hours   The proper way to thank him would have been to up fighters and brutally murder his buffs, thus mercifully shortening his own tedium. Call it Karma...

See, the key the a properly planed MISHUN!!! is to openly up a great gob of aircraft and hurl them at a similar gob of enema aircraft. Such MISHUNS!!! are difficult if not impossible to spy or grief.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

About the only time I ever got really pissed for days   while playing the game was when a player (who, based on rumors, is now involuntary no longer in the game for other reasons), saw a NASCAR mission posted - switched sides after we launched (remember when you would change what base you were going after at the last second to throw off side switchers?) and then low level bombed us on the way to town.  I'm glad there is now a 12 hour wait time.

Sure, the 12 hour wait time may cause other issues, but lets look at ways of addressing them.

[Tank-Ace]

When country switching was an hour, people bothered by ENY could and often did switch countries. I've seen 'em do it! Thus allowing ENY to act as an incentive, instead of simply annoying people. What does being stuck for up to 12 hours in something like a gaggle of P-40s against a lone red Spixteen give one incentive to do exactly, except log in disgust? Followed by the poor loner who just got hopelessly ganged also logging in disgust?

Thats why you don't switch to the high-number side, so you're not stuck as being part of the gaggle. Ideally, you would switch to the side of the lone spixteen, up something slightly less dweeby, and join him in working a slaughter against the horde of inferior (and quite possibly inept) P-40's.

On the contrary, players willing and able to switch to the low numbers side for any reason whatsoever (ride preference, perk farming, finding the best place to club baby seals) are the best thing for unbalanced sides, since they make the sides less unbalanced Maybe there are never enough of them, but the option should be and easy.

I would agree. But I'm talking about the country-loyal idiots who refuse to fly for anything other than their assigned country, and think they win a Knights Cross to the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds every time they capture a base.

Country or plane-loyalty is fine, country AND plane-loyalty is not.

[/quote](Oh, and ride-loyal side-switchers are also as valuable to the game as slightly judgmental Luft-enthusiasts   I took a wee peak at what LW Tour 166 looked like for Jager...Kurt, 152, and 262s kills galore! But runstang fetishists are baaaaadddd?????      Not to ignore your one-to-one K/D in the Emil, braggable, but game balance would have been better served by you being able to switch and fly your Kurt on the low numbers side instead, dontya think?)[/quote]

The difference is I fly a mix of aircraft, and fly high ENY aircraft voluntarily, and thus don't cry over ENY . If you care to notice, I also have a fair number of kills in the Ki-43 and A6M's.

In fact, the only planes I won't fly are the Spitfires (I won't contribute to the spit problem), P-51D's (won't contribute to the pony problem), and P-38's (can't fly it for hell, for some reason). Admittedly I tend towards Luftwaffe aircraft, but my secondary rides change as I grow bored with the current ones. For a while it was the P-40's, then the C.205, now the kites.


And game balance is served just fine by me fighting for the Knights, with 21 less players than the bish, and 2 more players than the rooks, rather than switching to the rooks, since the exact numbers fluctuate constantly. Our real goal should be to get 14 of those bish to change sides, preferably with 7 going to each side, so the numbers are even.

[kvuo75]

And game balance is served just fine by me fighting for the Knights, with 21 less players than the bish, and 2 more players than the rooks, rather than switching to the rooks, since the exact numbers fluctuate constantly.

what time of day do you play?

ive been keeping records lately when I play. I never see numbers like that.. example from last nite:

(pacific time)

time/bish/knit/rook

647p 106 133 135
731p 114 129 121
751p 110 137 123
824p 97 142 127
925p 85 137 109
949p 71 124 105
1111p 56 78 68
1203a 42 74 55

only slightly different than recent weeks because usually rooks have the extra players those hours... I'm guessing some squads rotated to knights.

[Tank-Ace]

It varies. Most common would probably be between 3-6 PM Mountain Time.


And its just an example. I picked 21 people because its large enough to make a considerable impact, and neatly splits into 3 even groups.

[BnZs]

Thats why you don't switch to the high-number side, so you're not stuck as being part of the gaggle. Ideally, you would switch to the side of the lone spixteen, up something slightly less dweeby, and join him in working a slaughter against the horde of inferior (and quite possibly inept) P-40's.
 

The problem is, what if you switched to the low number side two hours ago, but now it is the high numbers side, but you can't switch again today.
One hour switches allow the sort that gets something out of blowing up inanimate objects, rolling maps, and winning te3 war can switch to the high side and do that, those who simply want a hot plane with lots of things to kill can switch to a low numbers side. Everybody wins.

[Tank-Ace]

I've never supported the 12 hour side switch rule.

But it doesn't preclude us from making the ENY change. It might even drive the side switch change, where as the side switch change would not drive ENY change.

[BaldEagl]

But it doesn't preclude us from making the ENY change.

You work for HT now?

[Ack-Ack]

Country or plane-loyalty is fine, country AND plane-loyalty is not.

You need to get off your high horse.  It's players like you that aren't needed in this game.  The only suggestions you have for the game is to penalize players for not playing your way, none of your suggestions will help improve the game in any fashion other than help the unskilled dweeb that is known as Tank-Ace, to the detriment of everyone else and the game.  You try and come off as some 'Experten' player in your posts when you're nothing more than a sub-average player that is pissed because players don't play the game how you wish they would play.

Instead of telling others to leave, do us all a favor and follow your own advice.

ack-ack

[FLOOB]

BUTTFACES!

[Dragon]

ENY kicked up to 20+ in the wee hours Saturday night/Sunday morning for Knights so instead of taking NIK's to back up the bombers we took 410's.  Never flew them before and found it very successful port de-acker until an engine gets hit. ENY got worse and ended the evening in a 47D11 (which I fly regularly anyhow) when we won the war.

[MrGeezer]

I remember (have partly logged) an entirely different thing: ENY was kicking in far more often and more massive because of the two arenas. One country would dominate LWO, another LWB. When too outnumbered (and thus getting rolled) players at large would try to join the other arena, not switch sides. Back then, just like today, most players were still very much country loyal. Only a minority doesn't care and switch for the fight.

Please don't tell the minority of players who feel that way that they are in the minority.  They will tell you straight out that they are soooooooo in the majority that they exceed China.

Of course, they are completely full of Shinola, but they WILL tell you that as they simultaneously beat the dead horse.

[BnZs]

we won the war.

The players who got to fly in a target rich environment instead of being stuck on the side that was grabbing vast tracts of cartoon land, these were the real winners.

[Dragon]

The players who got to fly in a target rich environment instead of being stuck on the side that was grabbing vast tracts of cartoon land, these were the real winners.

And we fed those few quite well with our high ENY planes and still enjoyed every min of it.  It's fun to try new planes, hell, we ran a Stuka mission for the hell of it and got picked apart by spit dweebs and a 190 but several planes still got through to hit assigned targets.   

[BnZs]

I`m sure ballads will be written commemorating the glorious combat against various buildings. Meanwhile, I feel a bit sorry for anyone interested in killing  aircraft and vehicles actually controlled by another player but who found himself stuck for hours on the high-numbered side...   

[save]

Those two arenas almost made me quit AH.

I remember (have partly logged) an entirely different thing: ENY was kicking in far more often and more massive because of the two arenas. One country would dominate LWO, another LWB. When too outnumbered (and thus getting rolled) players at large would try to join the other arena, not switch sides. Back then, just like today, most players were still very much country loyal. Only a minority doesn't care and switch for the fight.