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Offline XxDaSTaRxx

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 06:13:52 PM »
I wish I could watch some of my old films, I'd be happy to donate a few dozen 262 sorties, If flown like a fighter, you better have good SA, or just zoom through a horde at 500 and don't get Ho'd. Doesn't take much aim with 4 taters spudding out of it.

If you have films I would love to watch them  :rock

Upload them to mediafire or somewhere where I can download them and play them in the film viewer. If you're okay with that I'll send you my Email and you can send me the link.  :cheers:

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2014, 06:20:58 PM »
Fly offline and practice takeoffs and landings.  Landings are tougher but improper runway or field selection can make takeoffs dangerous. 

Everything happens much faster than you are used to.  Overshoots are easy and if you get too greedy, collisions are even easier. 

Keep an eye on your fuel state at all times.  Once you get up to speed, throttling back a little bit can extend your sortie. 

If you are on the deck, don't get too slow.  With some alt, you can afford to slow down for maneuvering, as ludicrous speed is readily available by pointing your nose straight down. 

Watch out for overspeeding in a dive.  Very easy to zoom right by your target and face-plant your 200 perks.

Fire in short bursts.  Ammo goes quick.

Update your egress route often because you have everyone's attention and are public enemy #1.

Water maps are extra dangerous because unseen CVs can light you up before you even know they are there.  Even friendly puffy ack from CVs or strats can kill.  Trust me.  :furious

The 262 is the ultimate bomber killer under 30k.  Take your time to set up a high speed attack.  DON"T fly up the six for any reason. 
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 06:22:14 PM »
Fly offline and practice takeoffs and landings.  Landings are tougher but improper runway or field selection can make takeoffs dangerous. 

Everything happens much faster than you are used to.  Overshoots are easy and if you get too greedy, collisions are even easier. 

Keep an eye on your fuel state at all times.  Once you get up to speed, throttling back a little bit can extend your sortie. 

If you are on the deck, don't get too slow.  With some alt, you can afford to slow down for maneuvering, as ludicrous speed is readily available by pointing your nose straight down. 

Watch out for overspeeding in a dive.  Very easy to zoom right by your target and face-plant your 200 perks.

Fire in short bursts.  Ammo goes quick.

Update your egress route often because you have everyone's attention and are public enemy #1.

Water maps are extra dangerous because unseen CVs can light you up before you even know they are there.  Even friendly puffy ack from CVs or strats can kill.  Trust me.  :furious

The 262 is the ultimate bomber killer under 30k.  Take your time to set up a high speed attack.  DON"T fly up the six for any reason. 
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 06:57:51 PM »
And don't attack my Stuka G-2.... If you do I will HO the crap out of you like I did the last guy who tried it.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 07:22:37 PM »
Stay above 500...300 isn't enough.  If you get caught lower than prop planes, the deuce will out roll any plane in the game at 500.  90 degrees left, then 180 right and disappear.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2014, 07:39:32 PM »
Watch your speed diving. you will compress fast if going 400, 500 to begin with. You will lawndart.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2014, 08:13:49 PM »
Practice your landings offline.  It is not like piston engined aircraft that have a big airbrake on the front when throttled back.  When you throttle back in the Me262 it does not start decelerating with any enthusiasm.

When a Mosquito Mk VI offers you a head on, politely decline it.  All of my Me262 kills are of Me262s that accepted my Mossie's offer of a head on.

Prop planes have much better acceleration at low speed than the Me262.  At high speed the situation reverses.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2014, 10:37:24 PM »
There is a lot of information here I really wouldn't advise, but what would I know I sometimes lose 5-10 a month.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2014, 10:49:29 PM »
Unless you use auto take-off do not hit auto climb after taking off or you'll nose plant it.  Level off, get speed then use set climb.

Throttle off and possibly cross control in a dive or you will likely auger.

In every plane I use point convergence for all my guns except the 262.  In the 262 I stagger the guns.  The closure rate is so fast throwing taters out of four staggered cannons increases the likelyhood of a hit and one hit is all it takes to knock someone out of the air.

If you decide to slow down and turn fight use only one gun bank at a time.

The key to landing is cross controlling prior to touchdown.  Flaps deploy at relaively high speed so get them out then side-slip to slow down.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2014, 12:54:08 AM »
If I ever fly the 262, I'm the odd ball that rarely gets above 5k. I like finding a low furnace and coming in tree top high.  Talk about a surprise for vultures when they start climbing I'm front of me! Plus it reduces the chance of me lawn darting.

Most importantly,  have fun and take risks. Perk points are easy to obtain (especially by flying high ENY planes or by going into the Early or Mid War arena and fighting off the 7 guys attacking a country that has zero players).

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2014, 02:04:54 AM »
Here's a few things I've learned over the years. Some might have already been posted but they are worth repeating.
1. Fire only one set of cannons at a time unless you are attacking bombers. 4x 30mm cannons is overkill for everything except bombers. If you fire only one set at a time, you double your firing time. Also, achieving consistent success with the 30mm cannons takes time. The ballistics are horrible compared to Hispanos or .50s. They take some getting used to.
2. Spread out the convergences for the cannons. If you spread them out it will increase the chances of a hit when firing all four.
3. You don't always have to fly at full throttle, especially if you are on your way to/from combat. I've found that 7500 RPMs will keep you fast enough to stay safe and will also conserve fuel.
4. Never land or take off from a base that has dar in the sector unless you are damaged or bingo fuel and have to make an emergency landing.
5. ALWAYS chop throttle and watch your speed when diving. There's no worse feeling than the feeling you get after you auger a 262, I've been there.
6. If you get an oil hit, but the engine is still working, shut it down and save it for landing if you can do so without putting yourself in danger. It is very difficult to land a 262 on one engine, especially for less-experienced 262 pilots. If you must land on one engine, try to make small throttle adjustments while on final or else you could go into a spin.
7. Make sure you adjust your views so you can see everything clearly. You have to keep your SA up at all times in the 262. Watch for planes that have an altitude advantage on you because they likely will do anything they can to shoot you down.
8. Pretty much every plane that has the chance to HO a 262 will do so. Don't let it happen.
9. Never attack a bomber from dead 6 o'clock. It's the best way to get yourself killed. Try slashing attacks from above or below or come from the front or sides. Also, make sure you leave yourself enough time to get out of the way. Collisions are a problem when flying the 262 simply because it is so much faster than everything else. The closure rates could be up to twice as fast as they would be if you were in a prop fighter.
10. DO NOT go near ships, strats, or HQs. The puffy ack has screwed over many 262 pilots. Also, if you go near the strats or HQ, you likely will see 163s. There's no escaping a 163 unless you run them out of fuel. They are vastly superior to the 262 in every way except for flight time.
11. Don't get slow when there is enemy around. There's pretty much nothing you can do in a 262 if you get caught low and slow.
12. Be careful when shooting while there are a lot of friendlies around. You DO NOT want to earn the special 262 achievement.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2014, 04:50:04 AM »
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2014, 07:25:30 AM »
Fly it like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4


That guy's an amazing shot.

Nonetheless, the video is a wonderful illustration of why some find that flying the 262 is surprisingly boring.  Zoom-shoot-zoom-shoot, over and over.

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2014, 01:10:15 PM »
Fly it like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4

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He's got some aim in his bot there. :D

Silliness aside, who is the current person to go to about the 262.  I haven't seen Grizz on in forever. :headscratch:
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2014, 01:24:04 PM »
I lose at least 1 to 2 262s a month....but of course I am no BnZ fighter either...last two that I have lost were on the runway...so I must really suggest that you practice your landings...I've flown 262s for years and there is nothing worse than the feeling you get when the landing gear snap off  :bhead
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