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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #150 on: January 19, 2014, 08:57:59 PM »
Really??? our 190a is the early war variant? and still has a 25 eny? Can you earn the early war plane achievements with it too?


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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #151 on: January 19, 2014, 09:13:12 PM »

No, yes, no.

Interesting and thank you for the response.

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #152 on: January 20, 2014, 03:46:08 AM »
Thanks Widow. Im having problems finding material on the TU2.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #153 on: January 20, 2014, 04:47:38 AM »
Thanks Widow. Im having problems finding material on the TU2.

You might find this interesting: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328373.msg4299722.html#msg4299722
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #154 on: January 20, 2014, 05:42:01 AM »
Really??? our 190a is the early war variant?

A proper early war variant like the A-3 would probably have lower ENY than the A-5. The A-3 had the same guns and engine, but weighed about 600 lbs less.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #155 on: January 20, 2014, 08:17:40 AM »
The A3 normally had 1.35 ata, the A5 was cleared first to 1.42ata (AH2), and later to 1.57 ata so in effect it should be faster.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #156 on: January 20, 2014, 09:11:05 AM »
A-3 and the A-5 would be cleared for the same boost at the same time. They literally have the exact same engine.

In 1942 the Fw 190A-3 was doing 335 mph at sea level.

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #157 on: January 20, 2014, 09:32:07 AM »
I wonder why HTC haven't made different boost levels available for many aircraft, like Il-2FB did back in the day. Like a 1944 P-51D and a 1945 P-51D with 100/150 avgas. The Fw 190A series would have different boost levels from 1941 to 1944 (A-3 was still in service in secondary roles like jabo). Seems like such a simple thing to add...
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #158 on: January 20, 2014, 09:40:55 AM »
Btw. AH's A-5 matches the performance of ~1.35 ATA. At 1.42 ATA the A-5 would do 415 mph at best altitude and 354 mph at sea level.


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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #159 on: January 20, 2014, 10:24:06 AM »
This thing looks kinda fragile with all the glass in the front.  I'd rather have a different twin engine ground attack aircraft.  (P-61 Black Widow)
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #160 on: January 20, 2014, 10:59:14 AM »
You'd feel more protected by a sheet of aluminum foil?

The Tu-2 is a bomber, not a ground attacker. It should be compared to planes like the Ju-88, B-25, B-26 etc.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #161 on: January 20, 2014, 11:04:11 AM »
This thing looks kinda fragile with all the glass in the front.  I'd rather have a different twin engine ground attack aircraft.  (P-61 Black Widow)
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #162 on: January 20, 2014, 01:21:53 PM »
Remember... many thought the Me410 would dominate the bomber hunting/killing aspect of AH too.  It doesn't.

I'd wait-n-see before making any judgements on the plane.  It may fly like a brick and be as tricky as the B25 in low level maneuvers.  It could be as fragile as an egg, too.

On the same note, don't be surprised if the B26 is not the same.  Me thinks when HTC updates a plane the flight models become more accurate and in many cases it is "worse" that the original model.  If that is the case with the B26 I anticipate a chorus a crying similar to coyotes in the middle of winter.  We'll see once the update arrives.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #163 on: January 20, 2014, 01:39:23 PM »
the B26B had the nerfbat coming since the 1.00  :D

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #164 on: January 20, 2014, 01:42:20 PM »
Me thinks when HTC updates a plane the flight models become more accurate and in many cases it is "worse" that the original model.  If that is the case with the B26 I anticipate a chorus a crying similar to coyotes in the middle of winter.  We'll see once the update arrives.

There are several updated planes that didn't have their flight models changed, Zekes and Yaks for example. It depends on whether Pyro thinks if new/updated flight model is needed.
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