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Offline Plawranc

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What do I do
« on: January 21, 2014, 01:44:17 AM »
I have noticed that in my work place, legal contracts and agreements, health and safety protocols and food safety protocols are being ignored.

I brought it up with my fellow employees and with low level management to the effect of what we can do about it.

I was informed today by a fellow worker that they overheard a pair of senior management people were discussing the situation in question and said they are going to send their tallest and "scariest" senior manager to.. and I quote "scare me into shutting the **** up"

Any thoughts gents?
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Offline RotBaron

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 01:51:59 AM »
Way too little info to answer your very complex question.

But, watch your step if you like your job. The "right thing" to do and what is done is in the eye of the beholder...
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Offline BluBerry

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 02:01:07 AM »
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I have to agree.. whistle blowers may be able to sleep better at night.. but then again, maybe being unemployed keeps them awake..
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Offline Copprhed

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 06:35:01 AM »
You have to make a decision, Plawranc. Is it more important to tell what's going on and put your job at risk, IF you can't prove your assertions. If you can, you are protected under Federal whistleblower laws. The problem with those is that you have to be able to prove retribution on the part of your employer. The system is set up to favor the employers, unfortunately.
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Offline Devil 505

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 06:43:26 AM »
Quote from: BluBerry on January 21, 2014, 02:01:07 AM
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I have to agree.. whistle blowers may be able to sleep better at night.. but then again, maybe being unemployed keeps them awake..
This is true. BUT...

Remember that to the bosses, shutting you up is the easier solution to the problem vs. actually correcting what is wrong. I'm sure that there is a government agency or agencies that could make a whole lot of trouble for your bosses if notified of the problems. Make it clear to that "scariest" senior manager that the choice isn't between correcting the problems or shutting you up. The only choice is fixing the problems with or without government notification.
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Offline GScholz

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2014, 07:32:57 AM »
You need to consider the consequences of your actions or inaction, not only to yourself but to those who buy your product believing it is safe. If a co-worker or customer gets hurt, is that a consequence you can live with? If you have to look for employment elsewhere, is that a consequence you can live with?

Sounds to me like you should be looking for employment alternatives in any case...

Whatever you chose to do, or not to do, good luck!
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Offline Oldman731

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2014, 07:36:09 AM »
Quote from: Copprhed on January 21, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
You have to make a decision, Plawranc. Is it more important to tell what's going on and put your job at risk, IF you can't prove your assertions. If you can, you are protected under Federal whistleblower laws. The problem with those is that you have to be able to prove retribution on the part of your employer. The system is set up to favor the employers, unfortunately.


If memory serves, I don't believe that Plawranc is protected by US law.

Do your best to ensure that you have witnesses nearby at all times.  They may not support you afterwards - in fact, usually they won't because they're fearful of their own employment prospects - but management has to take their presence into account.

If you're convinced that your co-worker is telling you the truth (and that he/she actually knows the truth), it can't hurt you to consult with a mouthpiece for half an hour or so.  Even aborigine law offers some protection in these circumstances, and its useful for bullies to know that you have backup.

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Offline Skuzzy

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 07:44:48 AM »
This topic could easily turn into a political discussion.  Do not get suckered into it as the consequences for the responder are just as dire as it is for the one who starts it.
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Offline Copprhed

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 07:47:04 AM »
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 08:04:39 AM »
Osha, epa,  etc
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 08:34:36 AM »
You should stand your ground but do it correctly.  As stated, OSHA, FDA, etc.  If the initial reaction from management is to "scare" you then you need to involve outside parties and let them do their jobs. 

I contacted OSHA after getting hurt by an overhead crane with faulty brakes.  They knew it was me that called but management also knew they couldn't touch me without retaliation on a federal level.


You should still begin looking for other employment though, if for no other reason than it sounds like a disgusting, careless and potentially dangerous job.
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Offline katanaso

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 09:10:13 AM »
Find out the laws in your country.  They're probably a little different than what people are quoting for the US.
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Offline bagrat

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 12:32:24 PM »
1 go rogue
2 take out the bad guys
3 ???
4 save the mother f****n day

 :noid u didnt hear it from me.

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Offline SPKmes

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 01:00:05 PM »
Ask for more money...

in all seriousness... don't be pushed about if you feel it is a serious breach of protocol.... Be sure within yourself that you are seeing the whole picture from an unbiased view (difficult being employed) and not mostly a personal grievance about the way you see it..as if it does become a sh!7 storm an impartial intermediate won't be looking at you or them...it will only look at legally binding (constitutional) documentation...

Think about the implications of the entire process about to happen...and as said prior...can you live with the consequences..good, bad or indifferent.
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Offline cpxxx

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2014, 01:10:07 PM »
How is the company doing? One of the indications of a company in trouble is when they start to make shortcuts in areas like that. Short term cost savings seems appealing to less than competent managers when things start to go downhill in a company.

That may or may not be the reason. But it's worth thinking about for your own future.
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