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Offline Tupac

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 01:11:50 PM »
That's a tough situation. I can't offer any insight, but will wish you the best of luck.

(Also, if the big manager tries to fight you stomp on his toes and then kick him in the balls. It works.)
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 01:15:46 PM »
Joe Strummer said "When I get aggression, I give it two times back." 

So if big scary monster supervisor tries throwing his weight around, give him hell.  Sometimes it's enough to let someone know you won't be moved, and they back off.  Whatever the circumstances, Fear will paralyze you and make your decision harder if you let it.  Try to think and act according to what's important to you.

Hope it goes well for you, sir.
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 01:17:18 PM »
well I will tell you from my PERSONAL experience with this, be carefull on how you approach this.  I called OSHA when I was at my present employer, they showed up and the company got all kinds of fines and stuff.  Well because I knew they were doing this and that wrong I was easily read and they figured out who called, no I didnt tell anyone that I called my actions I guess spoke louder than words.  but any ways, yes you are protected by retaliation laws, BUT you are not protected by them nit picking EVERY little thing that you do untill they have enough to fire you with.  From the time I called OSHA and the time they showed up-about 2 weeks, then about 5 months later I was fired.  I got nit picked on every little thing I did, it took about 3 weeks after they showed up to pin it on me.  so BEFORE you call make sure that you don't have the same kinda DGAF attitude like I did because it will bite you. now that I dont work there hahaha everyone knows because I told them that I called the day I was let go

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2014, 01:19:55 PM »
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(Also, if the big manager tries to fight you stomp on his toes and then kick him in the balls. It works.)
:rofl in the short term it gets them out of your face. I told my old boss if he didnt get out of my face and stop yelling at me in front of other employees none the less, that he was going to be sh@#ing his teeth, ya doesnt go over well   :rofl

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2014, 01:55:20 PM »
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2014, 02:44:52 PM »
I suggest doing the moral, ethical thing. You can sleep at night better even without a job.

Grandma always summed it up better "Follow your heart, because at the end of the day, moments before you fall asleep, the day's events will come flooding through your mind"

If it ends up that you lose your job, you can find another. And that would actually look GOOD on a resume if I were interviewing you because we look for ethical people this day and age. (That is something that is hard to come by)

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2014, 02:57:16 PM »
Don't let anyone bully you into shutting up. Don't let anyone bully you, ever, in any aspect of life.

Who knows what they might do in the future, once they think you are a pushover. Not a good position to be in with anyone.

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2014, 03:31:32 PM »
Be ready to place your phone on record.
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2014, 03:45:58 PM »
If it's reached this stage, you are likely doomed anyway.  Take it from someone who's been there.

Might as well go down swinging....but that's a choice you need to make based on your personal situation.

And yes, workplace protection laws will postpone the inevitable, but no more than that.  Whistleblower laws and whatnot are all great on paper...but as others have pointed out if they want you gone they will be able to come up with an approach to do so that will minimize their risk. 

Good luck sir.  :salute
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Re: What do I do
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2014, 04:18:29 PM »
It would be better if you could provide some more details, your description is fairly vague.  Are you responsible in your position to maintain a code compliance?  Are you performing your tasks to established protocols and are noticing others are not?  Are these things you notice a life and safety issue?  For example, could someone get hurt or sick because of these lapses? 

Also, are you certain that compliance isn't being met outside of what you see.   For example, you're maybe not privy to the contracts between your company and the customer, perhaps what you see as a lapse is actually an agreed upon contract/procedure change?

First thing I would do is document it in a memo what you have seen to the senior supervisor and copy your HR department if you have one.

Keep it positive, maybe this is an opportunity for you to get a promotion. 

"I know our company strives to provide our loyal customers with an outstanding product and I have noticed some lapses in our established protocols.  I wanted to bring this to your attention in case you felt any corrective action needs to be taken on our part."

"I noticed we do not do such and such anymore, is this a new procedure?"

Then I would document in a private log book everything you saw and when you saw/see it. 

Last piece of advice, if you aren't really that worried about it, if it is a minor thing, drop it. 

If it is a major thing, and you want to pursue it further, take a one hour consult with a labor law specialist in your area.  Pay for a half our consult, tell him everything and hear what they say.  I'm sure they can give you more sound advice than what you are getting here.

Good luck, let us know what happened.

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2014, 04:40:35 PM »
1. You should be talking to an attorney and not on a public site.
2. You can always talk this over with the Unemployment Office. The Unemployment Office keeps records of disputes and the last thing a company needs is to create a list of negative marks.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2014, 05:30:23 PM »
1. You should be talking to an attorney and not on a public site.
2. You can always talk this over with the Unemployment Office. The Unemployment Office keeps records of disputes and the last thing a company needs is to create a list of negative marks.

What he said, and keep a log.

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2014, 06:36:29 PM »
yeah I agree with shuffler, be ready to put phone on record, never know what might be said.  I would say that your days are numbered as they already have you singled out just as I was, I expected to get fired just a matter of when.  I also agree that a few more details would be helpful, some good ideas here, logs, pics, anything that you can document.  IMHO I would be looking for another job just from my past experience, you're singled out just as I was.  Not sure of what the job is or what you do, but after I was singled out as I said, EVERY little thing I did wrong, or not to the boss mans liking, I got repremanded for.  I think they wanted me to quit, so be prepared for that as well.  good luck sir  :salute

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2014, 06:45:43 PM »
1 go rogue
2 take out the bad guys
3 ???
4 save the mother f****n day

 :noid u didnt hear it from me.

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Re: What do I do
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2014, 08:53:07 PM »
Joe Strummer said "When I get aggression, I give it two times back." 

So if big scary monster supervisor tries throwing his weight around, give him hell.  Sometimes it's enough to let someone know you won't be moved, and they back off.  Whatever the circumstances, Fear will paralyze you and make your decision harder if you let it.  Try to think and act according to what's important to you.

Hope it goes well for you, sir.
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confronting supervisors is a sure way to get fired.  they can just claim this little thing called insubordination.


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