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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2014, 10:21:56 PM »
The Dispresed strats have ups and downs. As seen a few days ago, Knights took both fields on the island that contained the Rook fuel refinery. Rook refinery: 0%.

As a buff pilot I like the dispersed strats. Missions to strats require multiple branches of bombers. You will now have to see large raids to fully cripple a team.  :x

Only if fighter jocks would fly buffs and contribute a bit  ;)

All jokes aside It's great we have the dispersed strats.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2014, 11:40:38 PM »
You, like many other are looking at the change from "todays" game play style. Strats were hit occasionally and if you were a map watcher you could spot the incoming flights and intercept. Now with them spread out there is more to cover. A single hunter, like you is going to have a harder time to make a difference. What will be needed is a shift in game play.

This shift may be be small groups of "wolf packs" hunting around the strats. New squads may pop up that specialize in this type of tactic. More of these encounters  will mean more small fights happening all over the map.
 

Shear speculation and forcing players to play "one" way.

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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2014, 11:49:18 PM »
Shear speculation and forcing players to play "one" way.

I have to disagree.  The dispersed strats let players play in many more ways than were available with the centralized strats.  And if you like to just up and get a few fights in you should have even more opportunity to do so now than before.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2014, 01:44:28 AM »
I have to disagree.  The dispersed strats let players play in many more ways than were available with the centralized strats.  And if you like to just up and get a few fights in you should have even more opportunity to do so now than before.
I found this to be true I upped hit a strat, had some guys come to resup it I killed them then had fighters come in to kill me and wirbs on the ground next ting I know I spent 4 hours fighting over that strat, either in fightermode or in attack killing resuppers and the train. IN my experience sofar decentralized strats have offered much more diverse combat experience be it bombing resuppers and the train or fighting guys trying to provide cover for the resuppers. O also noticed a lot more of the 'hanger queens' being used to hit these strats, and with the strats being so close and hittable more guys just upping to pork dar, or ors, or the barracks now that thestrats are hittable and have much more effect without having to up a big high alt bomber mission.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2014, 03:16:52 AM »
I found this to be true I upped hit a strat, had some guys come to resup it I killed them then had fighters come in to kill me and wirbs on the ground next ting I know I spent 4 hours fighting over that strat, either in fightermode or in attack killing resuppers and the train. IN my experience sofar decentralized strats have offered much more diverse combat experience be it bombing resuppers and the train or fighting guys trying to provide cover for the resuppers. O also noticed a lot more of the 'hanger queens' being used to hit these strats, and with the strats being so close and hittable more guys just upping to pork dar, or ors, or the barracks now that thestrats are hittable and have much more effect without having to up a big high alt bomber mission.

Simply put there is no AAA at the dispersed strat system.
Next to no 88's to deal with.
Capture the island & pork the hell out of the strat because no one is coming to defend it now that the island is ours.
No goons coming to supply strats because it is surrounded with overlapping enemy radars.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2014, 10:18:56 AM »
Simply put there is no AAA at the dispersed strat system.
Next to no 88's to deal with.
Capture the island & pork the hell out of the strat because no one is coming to defend it now that the island is ours.
No goons coming to supply strats because it is surrounded with overlapping enemy radars.
What's not to like a milk runners dream. :uhoh
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2014, 02:19:55 PM »
so guys i have been away from the game for a bit what happend has the game updated yet?
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2014, 11:07:55 AM »
So anybody know if most maps will have strats spread out like NDIsles?  :headscratch: 
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2014, 01:05:15 AM »
Simply put there is no AAA at the dispersed strat system.
Next to no 88's to deal with.
Capture the island & pork the hell out of the strat because no one is coming to defend it now that the island is ours.
No goons coming to supply strats because it is surrounded with overlapping enemy radars.
What's not to like a milk runners dream. :uhoh

They placed the new objects on the old strat system so at least some AAA to shoot back at you now. :aok

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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #84 on: January 28, 2014, 09:55:30 AM »
So anybody know if most maps will have strats spread out like NDIsles?  :headscratch:  

We have modified all maps in rotation , but have only released ndisles at this point.

The others will be released very soon.

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« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2014, 10:02:24 AM »
I'm just curious, was there a stated reason anywhere as to why they changed from centralized to dispersed strats?  People don't usually make changes arbitrarily, so there's seemingly some behavior/gameplay they'd like to not be emphasized, or the centralized strats weren't promoting the sort of gameplay they envisioned when choosing to centralize them.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2014, 10:19:53 AM »
We have modified all maps in rotation , but have only released ndisles at this point.

The others will be released very soon.

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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2014, 10:26:25 AM »
I'm just curious, was there a stated reason anywhere as to why they changed from centralized to dispersed strats?  People don't usually make changes arbitrarily, so there's seemingly some behavior/gameplay they'd like to not be emphasized, or the centralized strats weren't promoting the sort of gameplay they envisioned when choosing to centralize them.

My .02 on this, although HiTech would be the best source for actual explanation.

1) Let the red guys take your zone base and your strats are hidden far to the rear. 
2) Do not attempt to re-capture said field as it would move your strats back towards the front. 
3) Don't take the enemy zone bases as it will move their strats to the rear.
4) The enemy will not attempt to defend or re-capture said field as it would move their strats towards the front.

Putting it simply it creates a situation where avoiding combat is the most rewarding choice for the country you are flying with.
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Re: Dispersed Strats
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2014, 11:22:42 AM »
My .02 on this, although HiTech would be the best source for actual explanation.

1) Let the red guys take your zone base and your strats are hidden far to the rear. 
2) Do not attempt to re-capture said field as it would move your strats back towards the front. 
3) Don't take the enemy zone bases as it will move their strats to the rear.
4) The enemy will not attempt to defend or re-capture said field as it would move their strats towards the front.

Putting it simply it creates a situation where avoiding combat is the most rewarding choice for the country you are flying with.

You have described the problem with the moving city complex. So next would be not letting them move, then the issue becomes once you get close to it, all strat could be hit. Put it in the rear and it will hardly ever be hit. Hence we changed to move the city complex closer on the large maps, but then we move all the factories to different areas of the map.

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