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Offline Nimrod45

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Spifire Fuel Capacity
« on: January 23, 2014, 11:00:33 PM »
I'm sure this one will be popular and the result will be an inbox full of fan mail but here it is.  

From Wikipedia:
Mk XVI (type 361)[edit]
A late Spitfire Mk XVIE with the teardrop canopy.This is TD248, currently flying at Duxford.
The Mk XVI was the same as the Mk IX in nearly all respects except for the engine, a Merlin 266. The Merlin 266 was the Merlin 66 and was built under licence in the USA by the Packard Motor Company. The "2" was added as a prefix in order to avoid confusion with the engines, as they required different tooling. All Mk XVI aircraft produced were of the Low-Altitude Fighter (LF) variety. This was not determined by the length of the wings (clipped wings were fitted to most LF Spitifres), but by the engine, which had been optimised for low-altitude operation. All production Mk XVIs had clipped wings for low altitude work and were fitted with the rear fuselage fuel tanks with a combined capacity of 75 gal.[38] Many XVIs featured cut-down rear fuselages with "bubble" canopies. On these aircraft the rear fuselage tank capacity was limited to 66 gal.[38]
 
Because of a slightly taller intercooler and rearranged accessories on the Packard Merlins a new, bulged upper cowling was introduced and also appeared on late production IXs.[51]
 
Armament for most Mk XVIs consisted of 2 × 20 mm Hispano II cannon - each with 120 rpg - and 2 × .50 calibre Browning machine guns - each with 250 rpg. 1 × 500 lb (227 kg) bomb could be carried underneath the centre rack, and 1 × 250 lb (114 kg) bomb could be slung under each wing. Some production aircraft had rear fuselage fuel tanks in addition to the main tank which allowed it to fly approximately as far as the Spitfire Mk VIII. Problems with the licence-built engines limited introduction to front-line squadrons for several months. A total of 1,054 Mk XVIs were built by Castle Bromwich.[22]


I dont know if is correct or not but if a Spixteen has 75 more gallons of fuel it could be used to anger even more haters.  It would dang near double the range.  If this is correct this would be my wish.  

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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 02:39:01 AM »
That rear tank was an add on as needed. If you read the manual, it had to be burned off before engaging in any maneuvers. You might do better wishing for the fuel burn value to be lowered in the arena.
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 04:55:15 AM »
When they can model repetitive motion neck injuries from Stixteen stirring.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 05:07:25 AM »
Never seen the Spixteen stick stirring but definitely seen it done in the 190's.

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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 09:17:33 AM »
Never seen the Spixteen stick stirring but definitely seen it done in the 190's.
you wouldn't be able to see it from inside a spixteen...have to be looking at it from the 6 oclock position while flying a plane without training wheels.
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 09:23:43 AM »
Oh, you didn't have anything intelligent to say?  Move on.

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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 09:31:28 AM »
just following the example of the original post...
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 01:31:53 PM »
just following the example of the original post...

It's not nice to pick on somebody who needs crutches. He can't help his terrible flying. :(
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 02:05:41 PM »
It's not nice to pick on somebody who needs crutches. He can't help his terrible flying. :(

Since when can't a good pilot take off on a good plane? If you can't shoot down a Spit16 that's your problem, not the guy's who flies it.

Plus I find Spit16s easy to shoot down, so sure, give them extra fuel. Although I'm not sure if high back Spitfires had the option for an aux fuel tank.  :headscratch:
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 02:08:41 PM »
That rear tank was an add on as needed. If you read the manual, it had to be burned off before engaging in any maneuvers. You might do better wishing for the fuel burn value to be lowered in the arena.

We have a similar problem with quite a few planes that are already in the game. Can a P-51 maneuver with fuel in it's aux tank? Can any of our aircraft drop drop-tanks while maneuvering? See my point...
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 05:11:24 PM »
It would just be an optionional higher fuel loading.  You could take it or leave it like the P-51.  It could be burned first on the way to the fight so when you arrived it would be empty and you would be at your fighting weight and if it is historically accurate there shouldn't even be an issue of what people think about it because AH doesn't build their planes based on what would be nice or what would be cool.

On another note I can't even believe the way some people behave in here.  I took a four year break from the game and I don't remember people acting like this before.  I find it totally idiotic the way people get flammed for what they choose to fly.  Do you think that durring the real war pilots turned their nose up at the better planes and chose to fly the lower performing planes to prove their manliness?  This is a game, I say fly what is FUN for you too fly and if this is the area of your life where you need to prove your manliness then get off the game and work on your life!  It's amazing to me how the Internet makes some people act so rude to others.  I doubt they would act like this in their dealings outside the safe atmosphere of the nternet connection. 

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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 05:25:43 PM »
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 09:09:31 AM »
I'm sure this one will be popular and the result will be an inbox full of fan mail but here it is.  

From Wikipedia:
Mk XVI (type 361)[edit]
A late Spitfire Mk XVIE with the teardrop canopy.This is TD248, currently flying at Duxford.
The Mk XVI was the same as the Mk IX in nearly all respects except for the engine, a Merlin 266. The Merlin 266 was the Merlin 66 and was built under licence in the USA by the Packard Motor Company. The "2" was added as a prefix in order to avoid confusion with the engines, as they required different tooling. All Mk XVI aircraft produced were of the Low-Altitude Fighter (LF) variety. This was not determined by the length of the wings (clipped wings were fitted to most LF Spitifres), but by the engine, which had been optimised for low-altitude operation. All production Mk XVIs had clipped wings for low altitude work and were fitted with the rear fuselage fuel tanks with a combined capacity of 75 gal.[38] Many XVIs featured cut-down rear fuselages with "bubble" canopies. On these aircraft the rear fuselage tank capacity was limited to 66 gal.[38]
 
Because of a slightly taller intercooler and rearranged accessories on the Packard Merlins a new, bulged upper cowling was introduced and also appeared on late production IXs.[51]
 
Armament for most Mk XVIs consisted of 2 × 20 mm Hispano II cannon - each with 120 rpg - and 2 × .50 calibre Browning machine guns - each with 250 rpg. 1 × 500 lb (227 kg) bomb could be carried underneath the centre rack, and 1 × 250 lb (114 kg) bomb could be slung under each wing. Some production aircraft had rear fuselage fuel tanks in addition to the main tank which allowed it to fly approximately as far as the Spitfire Mk VIII. Problems with the licence-built engines limited introduction to front-line squadrons for several months. A total of 1,054 Mk XVIs were built by Castle Bromwich.[22]


I dont know if is correct or not but if a Spixteen has 75 more gallons of fuel it could be used to anger even more haters.  It would dang near double the range.  If this is correct this would be my wish.  

No.  The Spitfire Mk GAY needs no more help.  Field mods are not allowed (or at least not used by HTC).  If you need more range then learn how to manage the throttle, the Spitfires have a far greater range than most think if the throttle is managed.  Try it.  Get to 18k, drop throttle according to the chart on the knee board, and enjoy the smells of gayness even longer.

and FWIW- For someone who flings poo he sure does cry a lot when the poo comes flingin' back.  You didn't think you be asking for trouble by calling those who may frown upon the unicorn suit plane that reeks of cheap perfume "haters"?   
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 09:18:06 AM »
I like the idea of the extra tank, 16s would be falling from the sky like Ta152s... Tail first with no hope for recovery
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Re: Spifire Fuel Capacity
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2014, 09:50:08 AM »
No.  The Spitfire Mk GAY needs no more help.  Field mods are not allowed (or at least not used by HTC).  If you need more range then learn how to manage the throttle, the Spitfires have a far greater range than most think if the throttle is managed.  Try it.  Get to 18k, drop throttle according to the chart on the knee board, and enjoy the smells of gayness even longer.
   

If what Wiki is saying is true it isn't a field mod, it is a factory fit, and if that is the case opinions would cease to matter at that point because High Tech doesn't design planes according to popular opinion other wise Spixteens would shoot banks to make everyone who is afraid of them happy and all the other (manly) planes would have Kleenex boxes so the Spixteen drivers wouldn't have to listen to your I incesent crying. 
I didn't mean to offend by jokingly saying haters, I only said that because the quickest way of being accused of being limp wrested is to talk about flying a Spixteen.  But I really couldn't care less at this point because it is a GAME!!