How do you deal with outclassed planes at LW MA like Zero, F4F, Brewster?

[Vudu15]

  You forgot the KI43 

[Latrobe]

You forgot the KI43 

We're talking about planes, not kites! 

[BluBerry]

We're talking about planes, not kites! 

Zing 

[Ack-Ack]

How do you deal with outclassed planes at LW MA?

same way I deal with other, more late war planes.  I shoot them down.

ack-ack

[Nath[BDP]]

Its K/D ratio is not significantly different than the A6Ms.  I don't find it particularly capable, just often whined about.

The top 2% of players can exploit the plane to its advantages, and hence potent in the hands of a select few.  Surprised you haven't found it such, you've been around awhile.

In my experience, it is particularly strong when fought from a defensive posture exploiting roll rate and its highly responsive elevator authority in order to restore E parity and gain guns solution.  It actually fits my style pretty well, since I prefer to engage from a less than ideal energy state.  The weak snapshot ability and speed hinder it -- but in a straight on furball on the deck, it's highly capable and people don't often see it as an immediate threat which is a definite advantage (compared to a P38, which is targeted right off the bat).  It's incredibly forgiving in the stall, it's also a very stable guns platform.  

Long but fun fight with the Brew on the deck ended up with 10 kills, don't mean to toot my own horn but a picture is worth a thousand words:

Notice how well it can turn around 180-220mph and maintain E.  Just perfect for that kinda fight.

http://john-sanderson.com/files/Aces%20High/misc%20films/brew10.ahf

[DREDIOCK]

In a furball I consider the Brew to be more fo a threat then say a pony.

They are one of those nuisance aircraft. You dont particularly fear them. But you know you cant just ignore them either

[Karnak]

The top 2% of players can exploit the plane to its advantages, and hence potent in the hands of a select few.  Surprised you haven't found it such, you've been around awhile.

That is true of every aircraft mentioned in this thread.

[Nath[BDP]]

That is true of every aircraft mentioned in this thread.

Thanks for reaffirming my original post

[waystin2]

If it can out turn me kill it first, if it can outclimb me kill it first, if it can outrun me kill it first.

[Rich46yo]

After years of playing this game many become disinterested in flying Low eny planes. Honestly I cant think of one that interests me anymore other then the LA for base defense against a Horde. I love the Brewster most when upping against CV planes and your able to get some air under you. There are some real Gems in the 15 to 30 eny range and a real expert, not saying I am one, can give anyone in a 5 eny plane a hard time. If in fact the pilot of the lower plane decides to fight and not run.

[Karnak]

Thanks for reaffirming my original post

When a post mentions the A6M, F4F and Brewster and a bunch of people jump in and say the Brewster shouldn't be in that list I don't think I am out of line saying that it isn't anything special to be singled out from the others.  The A6M5b is more of a threat by a significant margin.

When I countered the standard Brewster whining I was not imply that it didn't have strengths to be exploited, simply that it fit right into the OPs list.

[Arbiter]

You will need to energy fight the Zero, Brew, Hurri in any of those planes listed, albeit the SpitXVI has such a high rate of turn that given any advantage it should be able to stay behind them in turns long enough to get the kill.

Any Spit 16 driver fool enough to start turn fighting any of those planes will have his a$z handed to him if the pilot of the other plane is even remotely competent.  Spit16 might be able to take advantage of its roll rate against the Zeke or Hurri but trying to do so against the Brew is a fools game.  Spits, while great turners, are just not in the same league as these three.

Best course of action for a Spit when fighting these three plane types is the same as most every other ride in the planeset i.e. use the vert / stay fast / slash attack or a mixture of these three.

[BaldEagl]

I just feel that most of "outclassed" planes are almost ignorable.

And this will one day be your undoing.

[artik]

And this will one day be your undoing.

that is why I had written "almost" so that I'll keep an eye on them so they wouldn't try to catch me unprepared, but in general I don't feel them like a big threat (unless they have significant E advantage and close to me, than I take them seriously).

However in compatible E positions it is up to me to attack them, disengage or just keep an eye on them while fighting something more interesting/dangerous.

[Muzzy]

Speaking as someone who flies the FM2, which I know is technically not on the list, any good BnZ'er can take on the perk farming turn birds as long as he stays fast and has an altitude advantage. The thing is, there are very few good BnZ'ers out there. I'm talking about those like 2cmex who are supernaturally good shots, or RuMaL, who know how to keep pressure on while retaining an e advantage. Some of these planes are so stable you can fly them staring out your rear view, and for me, the typical pony or Dora driver is just an occasional nuisance. My advice: do not take any plane you see for granted. I would not want to face B3Yk in a hurri, Jazzi in an F4F, or surfinn or Candoo in an FM2. These boys fly those birds for a reason and they are very, very good at what they do.