P47M to D25

[ML52]

I normally fly the M and have been thinking of trying the D25, my question(s). Is there a great handling difference between the two? Does the lack of the vintrical bracing of the late models or the razorback make a difference and if so what is it?

[bozon]

I normally fly the M and have been thinking of trying the D25, my question(s). Is there a great handling difference between the two? Does the lack of the vintrical bracing of the late models or the razorback make a difference and if so what is it?

Slightly less lateral stability near the stall. A very minor effect. On MIL power the M and D-25 will behave very similarly, but the WEP on the M adds several times the number of horses that the WEP on the D-25 adds.

The Major difference between the two is that the D-25 is a real historically significant Jug while the M is a small number production run to a specific fighter group that already had Jugs with similar level performance since early 1944. So in a way, you can pretend that our M is an over-boosted D-25 of the 56th FG.

In the game go ahead and fly the D-25. The M is for players who need the crutch - once you are done with that you move to the D-25 and after that you graduate to the D11.

[BluBerry]

The M is for players who need the crutch.

[Randy1]

ML, the M is addictive for sure.  I was wondering why you choose the D25 over the D40?  Nothing wrong with the D25 choice at all.  On my P47 tours I use the M for fighter work and the D40 for attack work.

The N to me it is the P47 that flies so differently from all the rest excluding HP.

You got me on the vintrical bracing.  Bozon knows his P47s so you got a good answer there.

[Wiley]

The horsepower between the two is the biggest difference.  The D models are less forgiving of mistakes than the later models.  IMO the D-11 is a better fighter than the D25 or the D40, if you can deal with the cockpit bars.

Wiley.

[-ammo-]

I make very little accommodations between flying the two different AC.  As stated, the WEP of the M adds a dynamic to the handling.  When I am at the top of a loop or at the top of my zoom I always chop the throttle momentarily to expedite my reversal or turn so I don't fight the torque.  With the M, it is much more pronounced, especially when banking to port.

The M will give you a better chance of escape too.

[Latrobe]

I think the biggest difference between the Jugs, as already stated, is the WEP. Other than that I fly all my Jugs exactly the same. Not having that excellent WEP that the M has may be a little difficult to deal with at first but you'll get used to it. It's still only 5 minutes of WEP like the M so use it sparingly. I like to save my WEP for nose up maneuvers and climbs since that is the single weakest point of a P-47.

[Randy1]

The "N" though is the oddity of the P47s.  It holds such a true line albeit a bit difficult to change lines late in a hanger run.  With 25% fuel and WEP left the extra weight of the N seems to carry it through ACM especially low and somewhat slow.

Those that I have ran into that pilot the N that are good are damn good.

[Dragon]

Those that I have ran into that pilot the N that are good are damn good.

BJ229r comes to mind. 

[ML52]

Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.

[-ammo-]

Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.

Once you get past the views - especially the restricted rear view,  you will have a ball in the D11.  It is one surprising AC in AH.  Best of luck to you.  If you ever want to tag along with any of our group for some P-47 sorties, just holler. 

[-ammo-]

I don't fly the D-40 much, but not because any problems with the AC itself.  It was a 9AF and Pacific ship - the 56th never had one in the inventory. Nor do I fly the N for the same reason. I use the D-25 for JABO work.  Having said that, I'll fly an F4U or F6F from time to time and occasionally other non Republic built AC.

I'm funny that way

[Randy1]

Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.

That sounds like you have a good idea from all the post.  Next tour I will follow your path on the D11 and give it a go.  Time in the D11 would probably increase ones SA.  Maybe a tour of D11s and F6Fs.

[ML52]

Went to the D11 last night for a few sorties and did well against strat raiding buffs, next step to fight it low. I expect to die. lol

[Wiley]

IMO the D11 stallfights the best of the D's.  Good luck and have fun!

Wiley.