Author Topic: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !  (Read 1628 times)

Offline Mano

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Why do we need enemy GV icons? We have the Storch. The Storch can see them without icons.
Non perked planes bomb perked tanks without any risk to losing a plane or any perk points. In RL, camouflage such as
nets or tree branches covered tanks and other valuable ground vehicles. They also parked their gv's in burned out building as well.
You cannot hide a gv in the current terrains.

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Offline BuckShot

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 05:51:01 PM »
Sounds good, but only if the Storch can take of from tank spawns.

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 05:52:17 PM »
Because we don't want to be simulating legally blind pilots who can't spot a 30 ton tank parked in an open field, which is what it would amount to lacking icons.

1500 yards (Current icon distance for vehicles IIRC)=4500 feet. I can assure you that you can see cars and trucks easily at 5000 feet AGL in an airplane.

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 06:17:06 PM »
Only if you remove aircraft icons for GV's and perk the wirble/ostwind at the same time.
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 06:27:07 PM »
This board is in dire need of some new material.
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 07:04:55 PM »
This board is in dire need of some new material.

I want the option to shoot pies instead of bullets.. is that OK?

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 11:31:07 PM »
I want the option to shoot pies instead of bullets.. is that OK?

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 11:37:33 PM »
The issue of icons - both GV and aircraft - has been argued endlessly on this board.  Feelings often run high when the topic is brought up yet again.


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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 11:57:05 PM »
The issue of icons - both GV and aircraft - has been argued endlessly on this board.  Feelings often run high when the topic is brought up yet again.


I wish someone could convey in pictures to everyone talking about this issue what a car sitting on the ground 5000 feet below, or what a light aircraft over a mile away looks like from the air on a clear day. Hint: They do NOT look like tiny unidentifiable specks.
 
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 01:21:15 AM »
Why do we need enemy GV icons? We have the Storch. The Storch can see them without icons.
Non perked planes bomb perked tanks without any risk to losing a plane or any perk points. In RL, camouflage such as
nets or tree branches covered tanks and other valuable ground vehicles. They also parked their gv's in burned out building as well.
You cannot hide a gv in the current terrains.

If you don't have anything to contribute, whether in favor or against, or can't stay on topic, please stay out of the thread.

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Its true, nets were used for cammo. We used nets and IR sheeting all the time for cammo. The nets cannot simply be thrown over vehicles however, they need to be blended into the environment via the use of poles and cages to give a natural outline.
As a result, this takes a considerable amount of time, this should be modelled.
Also needing modelling is the constant hinderance of every single piece of equipment you are either wearing, or carrying, perpetually snagging on cam nets and causing an effect similar to being inextricably caught in a spider web!
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 06:00:27 AM »
Anyone who flys east west over Arizona regularly as a commercial passenger sees a major north south highway every flight from 25k. You also see cars and trucks driving down that highway during the day. Because it's a major flyway, you also see private planes and jets go by miles away and thousands of feet below. Unless they are painted black or dark blue, they always stand out in white and other bright colors. Sunlight is amazing stuff when it interacts with 3D objects and bright color.

In the game on occasion, fighters in bare aluminum will stand out way past 6k and even sparkle in the sun. But, most of our fighters and bombers are painted in dark none reflective colors. And like I said above. Black, brown, green, gray, and dark blue doesn't stand out like white and bright colors at a distance because of how sunlight interacts with them.

A vehicle sitting still against terrain color and clutter painted in similar colors will be hard to pick out. 
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 06:22:05 AM »
I wish someone could convey in pictures to everyone talking about this issue what a car sitting on the ground 5000 feet below, or what a light aircraft over a mile away looks like from the air on a clear day. Hint: They do NOT look like tiny unidentifiable specks.
 

I might have a pic like that. From 10-12k I could ID cars in the parking lot at the drop zone, easy to see.  But they were in no way camouflaged.
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 08:40:39 AM »
Just make bump map terrain not disablable.

I have a weak integrated graphics card and the frame rate hit is 1 frame per second.

We have guys disabling bump map and other settings to uncover tanks hidden in even the most dense cluster of trees.

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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2014, 08:54:37 AM »
Just make bump map terrain not disablable.

I have a weak integrated graphics card and the frame rate hit is 1 frame per second.

We have guys disabling bump map and other settings to uncover tanks hidden in even the most dense cluster of trees.

Good, the GVers must be bombed back to their desktops.
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Re: When the new terrain engine is released, turn off enemy GV icons PLEASE !
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2014, 08:54:54 AM »
Just make bump map terrain not disablable.

I have a weak integrated graphics card and the frame rate hit is 1 frame per second.

We have guys disabling bump map and other settings to uncover tanks hidden in even the most dense cluster of trees.

I haven't thought of disabling bump map.  I will try that next outing in search of GVs.