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Offline Viper61

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Squad assignments
« on: February 12, 2014, 07:16:46 PM »
Is there anyway that a matrix / log can be added or created that would track which AC assignments squads are getting?  I know Mr. BINO use to do this for a scenario which was great.  What I'm looking for is one that tracks back 3 or 4 scenario's with old info falling off and new info being added.  And because of what I'm asking this would fall on our over paid and under worked CM Team  :lol

I suspect this would be of benefit to the CIC's as well.

I ask this because the 325th has gotten hit with more than our fair share of Bomber rides over the last 6 frames.  Not saying anyone is targeting anyone here, and I'm sure its more a matter of the CIC planning just his mission and not looking back or having a reference table to look at.  If everyone is feeling the pain then I'm fine and that's just the way it goes.  But if your squad hasn't had bomber rides at least 50% of the time then we need to even out the pain some.  Squad / AC tracking is the only way to do this as I see it if the scenario's keep coming with heavy bomber numbers and no or reduced JABO operations. 

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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 08:25:20 PM »
Just a matter of going through the FSO logs.

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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 09:00:08 PM »
The suggestion has often been made that a C-in-C should review the last several frames to see what his troops have flown, and to distribute the bomber duty if possible.  All that's needed are the FSO logs on the AH Events site.

Before I joined the CM Team, when I only wore a single hat, that of the JG11 Ops Officer, I assigned our squad to some sort of bomber duty whenever JG11 was assigned C-in-C.  Seemed like the right thing to do.  Still does.


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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2014, 01:10:59 PM »
I know the logs have the info.  I would speculate that very few CIC's will go back and review the logs over the last 6-9 frames and then create a matrix to figure out a even balance of AC assignments.  Rather some CIC's just plan their mission without taking that into consideration at all.  in some scenario's the first CIC will create a matrix to the end of the Task Org and then this allows the 2nd and 3rd Frame CIC's to at least see what the squads have been flying for that scenario.  But that is few and far between.

Guys we need something here that will assist.  One of the most common reasons for guys departing squads in the FSO is poor AC assignments.  I'm seeing this first hand right now in the 325th.

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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2014, 08:14:51 PM »
Maybe someone could log who flew what (in the previous frames) on a simple excel spreadsheet and attach it with the objectives and map when they get sent out?  Sometimes it's just the way the numbers fall. When I know our turn at C in C is coming up I always save the orders from the previous frame(s) and review what the squads have as their preference but it is almost impossible to please everyone.  Although i try, i think that maintaining squad integrity is very important as well. I hate to split up a squad.  Excel doc with objectives and it resets on frame 1. :rolleyes:
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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2014, 08:16:34 PM »
There is nothing automated currently available to do this.  The only way - at the moment - requires a very time-consuming manual process: extract the side assignments created by the Admin CM from the AH Events site, then add the plane assignments manually from a reading of the FSO logs.  I cannot speak for the other members of the CM Team, but I simply do not have the time available for that sort of process, week after week.


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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2014, 08:26:52 PM »
Roger that. Just a bright idear. Maybe some smart programmer type could build something to do that.  It could turn into a full time job very quickly.
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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2014, 08:30:49 PM »
we got hit with being assigned bombers twice.....and the allies paid dearly for it!! LOL

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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 08:31:38 PM »
A while back I was doing a very similar series of manual steps to create the attendance spreadsheets.  But since I started my new job out here in RL a few months ago, I haven't even had the time to do that.  Sorry.  


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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 08:41:52 PM »
we got hit with being assigned bombers twice.....and the allies paid dearly for it!! LOL

Same for us. We had buffs and provided our own escort last two weeks. First frame we got wiped out, this time it was pay back. But as a large squad I can see that happening more often. Hopefully with the same results. Lol...
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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2014, 08:42:01 PM »
to be honest, when i do orders, i look to see what they flew last frame, or last 2 frames assuming i do frame 2 or 3. i dont have the time, nor do i care what happened last month. last time i did orders, it took me 14 hours due to a mistake on my part, plus redoing them twice in order to try to keep everyone happy. its luck of the draw and you just might have to live with it. make it fun! with a little imagination you can do alot of fun stuff with bombers!

and if that doesnt work, let me know. ill send you all of JG54's soiled sheep to keep you company on your next bombing run!  :salute

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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2014, 09:01:23 PM »
Oh we will fly Wright flyers and sling bricks if we have to. As far a the sheep go we have plenty of inter squad entertainment on the climb out.  But tha-aanks for the offer. :D
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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2014, 09:10:59 PM »
to be honest, when i do orders, i look to see what they flew last frame, or last 2 frames assuming i do frame 2 or 3. i dont have the time, nor do i care what happened last month. last time i did orders, it took me 14 hours due to a mistake on my part, plus redoing them twice in order to try to keep everyone happy. its luck of the draw and you just might have to live with it. make it fun! with a little imagination you can do alot of fun stuff with bombers!

and if that doesnt work, let me know. ill send you all of JG54's soiled sheep to keep you company on your next bombing run!  :salute

Good for you. Hopefully future CiCs will make sure you and your imagination get to pull the majority of buff assignments. It'll give you more chances to pat yourself on the back.


A while back I was doing a very similar series of manual steps to create the attendance spreadsheets.  But since I started my new job out here in RL a few months ago, I haven't even had the time to do that.  Sorry.  


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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2014, 09:29:01 AM »
 Shifty are you joking or serious? If you are joking put something on the end to make that clear! If you are serious you are out of line. This comes across as inappropriate!
Good for you. Hopefully future CiCs will make sure you and your imagination get to pull the majority of buff assignments. It'll give you more chances to pat yourself on the back.


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Re: Squad assignments
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2014, 10:52:02 AM »
Shifty are you joking or serious? If you are joking put something on the end to make that clear! If you are serious you are out of line. This comes across as inappropriate!

Really, how so? A guy came on and asked for assistance with a legititmate question and problem. He was answered with smarmy indifference.
My answer was very appropiate.

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