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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2014, 07:24:49 PM »
Has any terrorist organization taken credit yet?
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2014, 08:27:13 PM »
I've hear no terrorists have claimed responsibility  "yet".  I'm just waiting for the  search team to find a huge floating debris field, luggage, seat cushions.  Something has to be left on the ocean surface.
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2014, 09:49:39 PM »
Just going to throw this out there, why isn't anyone asking "where is the ACARS datalink data?"



They say that the last ACARS data burst showed no anomalies.


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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2014, 10:20:46 PM »
Could it have been taken one to remote place and used against NATO with this Russia (in other words as security unofficialy?
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2014, 10:26:09 PM »
Could it have been taken one to remote place and used against NATO with this Russia (in other words as security unofficialy?

Its unlikely as it would still have been tracked by radar. Unless someone has come up with a super stealth design u can retrofit in mid-air.

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« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2014, 10:39:26 PM »
Its unlikely as it would still have been tracked by radar. Unless someone has come up with a super stealth design u can retrofit in mid-air.

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2014, 10:42:26 PM »
It lost FULL radar contact at 35,000 feet... over WATER.

Where it was lost there is NO radar contact, The radar gap if you will, is about 100 nautical miles wide, VHF contact in also not available for 10 minuntes or so. Communication during this period is via HF (problamatical) or increasingly often via "ADSB", bascially satellite communciation.
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The only thing that could cause that is a total failure of the aircraft's integrity. Explosive decompression... or more likely, a bomb. The signal would register a major drop in altitude before disappearing as the plane broke up after a structural failure. Or the pilots would inform ATC of a problem. This would have to have been sudden, and catastrophic failure of the aircraft decreasing the mass of the aircraft instantly and cutting all power to communications and the transponder.
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Seeing as it operates on the Boeing system it could be the old Hawaii airlines syndrome. (Dad and I never miss Air Crash Investigations) Its operating in Asia. Lots of short hops and constant pressurizing and depressurizing causing cracks that results in explosive decompression. But Malaysian airlines has an outstanding safety record. They have had almost NO accidents in their operational history.

It is a 777, not the venerable 737, the 777 would be lucky to do 3 sectors a day, only if they did a Kuala Lumpur to Singapore and back would the flight time be less than an hour, everything else close around 90 minutes or so, mostly sectors of 6 -10 hours. Very unlikely multiple cycles whould be the problem. When you look at their 737-300/400 series, which I personaly saw enter service back in the early 90's those aeroplanes operated 6-8 sectors a day in the kind of environment that you prescribe to the Hawaii Airlines syndrome, the last of those planes were phased out last year or the year before. They didn't have any issues with cycles (that I know of).

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My best guess would be that the stolen passports are actually the beginnings of this. It may be a red herring I know "but if you eliminate all possibilities the impossible however unlikely must be the truth".  

Which class were they booked in? If it was economy it would be very difficult to effect entry to the cockpit as they have to pass unchallenged through business class. However if brute force was used, anything is possible, Im leaning this way.

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2014, 10:51:46 PM »
Noe. You kill transponder and say uplinks and am homefree

NOE, at night, through the Vietnamese mountainous jungle in a 777..... :headscratch:
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2014, 11:21:19 PM »
Has any terrorist organization taken credit yet?

Actually I heard via the TV that a previously unknown organisation has taken credit, they did this via emailing several Chinese journalists. However the authorities seemed to be disregarding this at the moment.
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2014, 11:58:54 PM »
NOE, at night, through the Vietnamese mountainous jungle in a 777..... :headscratch:
Seems legit. Right?

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2014, 01:26:16 AM »
I was implying that terrorist blew the plane up. Add in the introduced topic of ethnicity. Add in the last 777 to go down and the falsely reported names.  quite the recipe for a funny.  I bit much for some I see.  :ahand

well considering that the airplane was out of an Islamic country, what are the odds that there would be an ethnic Islamic passenger or pilot?  I would say the odds are very low  :rolleyes:

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2014, 02:26:53 AM »
well considering that the airplane was out of an Islamic country, what are the odds that there would be an ethnic Islamic passenger or pilot?  I would say the odds are very low  :rolleyes:

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They are now searching the west coast of malaysia.  basically, they do not know where the pane went down and are looking anywhere the plane could have ended up.  If the plane suddenly exploded on its planed flight path they should have found it by now.  if it glided, stalled, or was kept airborne by the pilot as long as possible, data should have been received about the location. but, anything is possible considering the fragility of technology and the vast empty space of 2am south east asia.

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2014, 02:38:19 AM »
Lots of people posting in this thread mostly colonials :old:

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2014, 08:19:28 AM »
The pilot flew the plane to america for freedom!  :old:


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Can a pilot turn off all types of communication?  :headscratch:

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2014, 09:05:54 AM »
So they are saying that the 2 stolen passports were Iranian nationals looking for asylum in Europe...sounds like made up BS to me...also they are saying that military radar in the region picked up the plane several hundred miles off course and at a lower altitude...of course this comes several days after the fact  :noid
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