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Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« on: March 09, 2014, 09:07:10 PM »
I haven't done a skin in ages  :eek:
France had some second hand American aircrafts, usually coming online very tired to be assigned mostly to ground missions.



Here's my take.









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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »
Looks pretty good so far, but you might want to tone down the clouding effect on the paint job. I'm not really seeing that present in the photo.
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 03:48:34 PM »
I like it.  It will be nice to get another French skin in AH.   :aok
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 03:48:37 PM »
Also, I'm not sure if it's the angles, though it doesn't look like it: the roundel that you are using looks oblong, instead of round.

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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 03:53:13 PM »
Looks pretty good so far, but you might want to tone down the clouding effect on the paint job. I'm not really seeing that present in the photo.

I agree


Also, I'm not sure if it's the angles, though it doesn't look like it: the roundel that you are using looks oblong, instead of round.


they are for sure oblong :aok



needs more paint chipping/weathering...



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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 07:55:02 PM »
Looks pretty good so far, but you might want to tone down the clouding effect on the paint job. I'm not really seeing that present in the photo.

Motion blur?
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 07:57:02 PM »
Motion blur?

No, they're talking about the texture, weathering of the paint. It is way overdone.
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 10:31:20 PM »
No, they're talking about the texture, weathering of the paint. It is way overdone.

And I am asking if a motion blur would soften it....
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 10:48:01 PM »
And I am asking if a motion blur would soften it....

yes it would, but it would help to back off on the opacity
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 11:01:51 PM »
yes it would, but it would help to back off on the opacity
Indeed. I use about 8% for my skins, this seems to be in the 15 to 20% range.
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 11:02:20 PM »
I actually kind of like the way the top paint looks, as for the bottom it doesn't look right. I'll probably motion blur it to have a 'streaky look'. You guys have to understand that neglected second beaten to crap is exactly what the French were mostly left with. I'm not talking only about scratches, but look at the paint/dirt on a few I scaned from my book. That's why I'm going for. The roundels are round, they do look weird in those pics, maybe it's the angle or my screen resolution, to be investigated.

At any rate, I appreciate the feedback and the pointers pointers   :cheers: I'll keep working on the paint fading dirt accumulation to try to represent the abuse of day to day ground attack missions on an already tired airframe.





« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 11:04:36 PM by SFRT - Frenchy »
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 11:58:20 PM »
personally I love the beat up war weary look.....thats the only way I would do a skin....I really dont like the look at a nice right off the assembly line look to a skin.

but your paint looks too evenly splotched all across the board....and there is not enough paint chipping off...(I see none)

I am guessing you are using a plasma cloud....

I would do a few different layers of "dirt" with plasma clouds....using different modes with minimal opacity...

I would not use a motion blur(just MO)....I add a transparent layer   then I would select the areas I want the dirt... and add plasma clouds....desaturate the color and drop opacity...you can duplicate that layer and reverse colors....again changing the opacity/mode.... or just create a few different layers to build upon the dirt layer....(selecting a color and deleting that from the plasma clouds and then adding a drop shadow...or emboss....very soft opacity....experiment for that right look...for sun fading and paint wearing..and then chipping...each will show a different effect...


not sure how you do the paint chipping....but I will create a BMF for the whole plane just like it would look without paint...allowing for different sheets of metal...and then having that layer below the paint layer...then just erasing the paint layers along the panel lines...canopy seams..wing roots....ECT ECT

exposing the bare metal layer below.


not sure if you have seen any of my skins....this is a P40E skin I have ingame...I used a couple different layers to build the dirt layer...you can see how it is not "even" across the surface....giving a more realistic look....



I am not trying to say I know better or insult ya in any way....I hope you don't take it that way.... :salute

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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 12:10:22 AM »
Hell no INK, I'm thankfull people are sharing their point of view and opening my mind.  :cheers: I'll gather the bits and pieces I like and ultimately create my own thing ... which some will love and some will hate. This skin as no paint chip so far, but the technique you describe is the one I used when I did this one. Sadly it was 8 years ago I lost the template  :cry

« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 12:17:52 AM by SFRT - Frenchy »
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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2014, 12:17:40 AM »
Hell no INK, I'm thankfull people are sharing their point of view and opening my mind.  :cheers: I'll gather the bits and pieces I like and ultimately create my own thing ... which some will love and some will hate.




thats cool, great attitude  :salute



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Re: Groupe de Chasse 2/3 Dauphine Corse June 1944
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2014, 04:00:28 AM »
Looking at your P40 ink, reminds me, why are your skins out of focus and blurry?
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