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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 04:25:56 PM »

First fight iKo went high vert at merge.  If memory serves I performed a moderate climbing turn towards him.  He was able to come around a bit faster with gravity and some nice throttle action and got my right engine with a crossing snapshot on the second merge.  That was pretty much it for me, as I was forced to trade alt for E to avoid him for a few more turns. 

Second fight merge was similar, but I performed a slight descending turn after the merge to build a bit more E before throttling back very slightly at the bottom of the turn.  iKo was coming off the top and I had a very brief offnose snapshot at his cockput and down his centerline as he was coming down.

iKo's always a fun fight and a skilled opponent.  :salute   Sadly we never got to fight afterwards as some dude ("Longdong".... or something like that) kept mouthing off on the ALL channel.  So we took turns kicking his LA / Spit16 flying butt.  :D


110G can be an interesting opponent.  It's outclassed by the majority of late-war planes and even several mid-war planes.  That being said, it turns better than many give it credit for and, while not particularly fast, can get decent speed in a dive without compressing if managed correctly.  It also has absolutely nasty firepower.  Everyone knows the P38's centerline firepower is nasty.  Think of the same idea, but instead of four .50s and a single 20mm the 110G has a standard loadout of two 20mm and two 30mm with plentiful ammo.  It can also add two more 20mm if one ops for the heavy package.  This adds up to absolutely devastating snapshots if the 110G has the opportunity to get one off. 

Best bet to beat the 110G:

1.) Stay vertical and force it to spend altitude for E to maintain the fight: 110G can't maintain sustained climbing combat maneuvers for long so go or stay high and keep forcing him down.  The 110 can turn but it bleeds E like a hemophiliac while doing so. 110 also doesn't accelerate all that well without diving.  By staying vertical you will eventually force the pilot to concede alt to maintain E, slowly forcing him down to the deck.  Once there the 110G has very limited options...it can't run, it can't regain E quickly and it can't turn forever.

2.) Avoid giving a 110G ANY shot opportunities, no matter how brief - While this is standard advice when fighting most planes its critical when fighting the 110G.  Snapshots from a 110G won't hurt you....they will END you.  Even rugged fighters like the P47, Hellcat or Ki84 can't shrug off hits from two tater tossers and two (or potentially four) 20mm.  If you do manage to survive you likely won't be in any shape to extend away, let alone fight.

Hope that helps....

Thanks for that - I always find myself either attempting in vain to match a turn, or getting face-shot on the way back down from the vertical.
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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 12:42:09 AM »
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I know better than to say anything other than <<S>> too you sir!  :devil <Middlefinger>

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 12:42:43 AM »
not the finger wiggle!

BluBalls you owe me some duels & a blunt!  :rofl

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 12:44:18 AM »
Sure.  I think I owe you a fight or three. I had a blast late last night in the DA with iKo in his Mossie and me in 110G after leaving the MA out of boredom.  :)


MAN what fun tonight sir<<S>> i can say your a great stick in that 110 and waxed the spit5.... only a few times though  :devil


Always more fun in the DA than the MA with you sir <<S>>  and just rember.... I KILL YOU!  :x

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 12:46:36 AM »
so you want to prove you are a man in such a way that your face and body is not in any danger.  if you really want to fight then turn computer off and go to the nearest gym and tell any of the guys that he's wearing a skirt. or just tell your gf (if you have any) that she looks fat.  you will really know pain.


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I love me some fat womenz! and will love to go to the DA with you and our fat womenz  :x  :cheers:




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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 12:47:15 AM »
I am bleeding...making me the victor

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never let em see you bleed and always have an exit plan sir <S>

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 12:48:47 AM »
I like rearranging Deadstik's face into various Picasso paintings.
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You guys should take him up on the offer, it's fun for all the family.




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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2014, 12:50:16 AM »
IKO is always a fun fight and same to deadstik  :salute :cheers:



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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2014, 06:52:35 AM »

MAN what fun tonight sir<<S>> i can say your a great stick in that 110 and waxed the spit5.... only a few times though :devil


Always more fun in the DA than the MA with you sir <<S>>  and just remember.... I KILL YOU!  :x

Thanks dude...'twas a blast as always!   Oh...and you only killed the 110G in the girly-man Spit5 O N C E.   ;) :D :salute

For those not in the know....Deadstik's always a fun fight and an all around good guy.  Take him up on DA canyon fun....you will be glad you did.   :aok

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2014, 12:46:37 PM »
Forgive semp, he lacks a sense of humor.

ack-ack

Sir if you have some free time in the near future I would like to beat up your peee 38s' fist mercilessly with my face.

I recall a few times running into you in the MA and saying too myself "YaY free lunch a low p38"

Followed by "OMG Wtf how did he do that... dayum it... no... ugh" :: poof:: "hi tower how are you?"

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2014, 12:53:31 PM »
Pffft this guy is a hoax :old:

You sir, owe me a 262 someone happen to see rolling out upon takeoff........ you arseclown. Do not think I have forgot about that one you muth#*#@×!^

Hope all is well for you in the Navy and look forward to ramming you in rear....

Ramming your PLANE in its rear.... your PLANE.... f it nvm.

Fak Joo sir!  :neener:  :devil  :bhead  :salute

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2014, 02:29:19 PM »
Sir if you have some free time in the near future I would like to beat up your peee 38s' fist mercilessly with my face.

I recall a few times running into you in the MA and saying too myself "YaY free lunch a low p38"

Followed by "OMG Wtf how did he do that... dayum it... no... ugh" :: poof:: "hi tower how are you?"

 :salute

not that me and AKAK like each other.....but that one knows the B-38 in and out and he tries to dog fight in a bomber gotta respect that. :D

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2014, 02:41:57 PM »
 :salute hey deadstik good to see ya. hope things are well.  :cheers:

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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »
not that me and AKAK like each other.....but that one knows the B-38 in and out and he tries to dog fight in a bomber gotta respect that. :D

You and I have a DA session comming up sir!!  :rock

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Re: MY face and YOUR fist
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2014, 03:20:56 PM »
:salute hey deadstik good to see ya. hope things are well.  :cheers:


Hiya Bort good too see you as always along with Duxford! Gents  :salute