Kills system

[Karnak]

Karnak, actually you are correct.  Had to re-read it again.

Augmenting what I added.  When I said, " there is no way to do more damage", I was referring to no more scoring for damage.  The plane can still be damaged, but there is no more scoring done.

Yup.  Doesn't take many damage points to remove a Spit's wing and if Player A does that, only hitting the wing, then Player B can do more damage points to the Spitfire's carcass than Player A did, but it doesn't count towards who gets the kill, just towards blowing the Spit to smithereens.

It used to count and players would shoot falling hulks to get the kill on them.

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the easiest way to get around any one "stealing" your kills....fly against red guys...fight JUST red guys for your kills...not green.

assists will be almost non existent. 

[Chalenge]

  Who should get the kill,the 1 shot or the 200 rounds that did nothing but scratch the paint?  As it is the straifer would be awarded the kill,I know I've gotten kills by pointing out tanks with tracers and scratching the paint.

Even the tanks with the heaviest armor can be penetrated by the M2 HB .50 cal. inside of 500 yards. I am not sure how the AN/M2 compares, but I would bet Hitech does.

[morfiend]

Even the tanks with the heaviest armor can be penetrated by the M2 HB .50 cal. inside of 500 yards. I am not sure how the AN/M2 compares, but I would bet Hitech does.

  What you say may be true but it doesnt change what I said. Sure you might kill the engine or take out the tracks but I have never killed a tank outright with just 50 cals.


   My point was simple the multiple rounds from the 50 cals score more damage than the single tank round that pops the turet. I have been awarded kills this way before and IMHO I didnt deserve the kill the tanker did.

  The OP seems to think it's not fair because his well placed cannon rounds destroyed the plane but he was only awarded an assist because someone else sprayed,in his words,20 rounds into the plane and did no damage.

   

[Chalenge]

Well, the OP was assuming (I think) that the .50 cal is always spread all over the target aircraft, instead of being just an eyelash away from destroying the aircraft. Similarly, I think most people assume that because a 37mm cannot penetrate the frontal armor of some tanks that a .50cal cannot penetrate the upper armor, while that is usually exactly where the .50cal from an aircraft will hit. I realize it is marginal and that the 20mm would be a more likely killer, but I also think it is likely a .50cal could kill a tank by killing the engine, or crew. Even though it is not modeled a 50.cal penetration on the gun would certainly make the tank useless.

[Lucifer]

Good points here, ty Fellas.

I feel like stealing a kill when i strafed a Tiger II with 50-100 .303 bullets, to make a diversion then a good tanker kill it with one single well aimed round :

I did absolutely no dmg (except number of bullets and 0.00001 % on the enemy tank armor), though im awarded the kill : i shouldnt be awarded that kill-at all-

For the enemy planes part, same thing : i shoot 100x .303 bullets on a B17, no smoke, no harm at all (for me, harm= at least an aileron gone, a lil smoke pouring from an engine) and i get the kill when a 262 friend shoot 10x30mm on it, blowing it : i shouldnt be awarded that kill either...