Yak-9U vs Yak-3

[Nefarious]

Am I cornfused? I thought by the discussion on the BBS that the Yak 3 is "better" than than the -9.

Which aircraft is more feared by it's historical competition? meaning Fw190 A and D and Bf 109G and K.

Yak 9 seems faster, Yak 3 has better climb... Any help? Opinions?

[mthrockmor]

I'm no expert though what I've read is the Germans were OK with the 9s speed, it was the turning ability mixed with solid speed that caused concern with the 3. One posted noted German high command told pilots to avoid the 3.

Just what I've read...

[bustr]

You will need to create a list of differences to how all of the aircraft in question were flown in ww2 versus how we fly them here in Aces High.

I will start it.

Yak3

-------------Real World ----------- Aces High
Deaths--------- 1 ----------------- Unlimited
Physics---- unforgiving ------------- Fixed, predictable

With unlimited deaths and a predictable physical environment to wax on and wax off over and over and over. You will eventually learn to dance your heart out all night long in ACMy bliss. The most unpredictable aspect of the game is the Internet. I believe more ww2 pilots were killed visa accidents of all kinds versus killed by enemy activity.

[artik]

Yes Yak 3 is better and later Yak variant.

The major difference between Yak-3 and Yak-9 is its weight and size, having the same engine Yak-3 is lighter and smaller - it is one of the smallest WW2 fighters.

Looking at pure AH statistics
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Yak-3 - 1.08
Yak-9U - 0.88

To be honest... I like all the Yaks in the game when they fight against the planes of same period.

[bustr]

Our Yak 9U has a VK-107 1,500 hp, while our Yak 3 has a VK-105 1,300 hp.

[BnZs]

Physics in the real world unpredictable? Great!, maybe there is hope for FTL travel after all 

You will need to create a list of differences to how all of the aircraft in question were flown in ww2 versus how we fly them here in Aces High.

I will start it.

Yak3

-------------Real World ----------- Aces High
Deaths--------- 1 ----------------- Unlimited
Physics---- unforgiving ------------- Fixed, predictable

With unlimited deaths and a predictable physical environment to wax on and wax off over and over and over. You will eventually learn to dance your heart out all night long in ACMy bliss. The most unpredictable aspect of the game is the Internet. I believe more ww2 pilots were killed visa accidents of all kinds versus killed by enemy activity.

[Wmaker]

Yes Yak 3 is better and later Yak variant.

Actually Yak-9U became operational later than Yak-3...

[bozon]

Am I cornfused? I thought by the discussion on the BBS that the Yak 3 is "better" than than the -9.

Which aircraft is more feared by it's historical competition? meaning Fw190 A and D and Bf 109G and K.

Yak 9 seems faster, Yak 3 has better climb... Any help? Opinions?

"Better" depends on what. In a knife fight, the -3 is better, period. The main advantage of the -9U is speed and performance at altitude. The difference is not big enough to compensate for the better handling and insane helicopter properties of the -3, so it is considered overall "better" by most players.

I think that in real life the -9U also had some armor, while the -3 had practically none. In the game however, I find the Yak-3 to be one of the most difficult fighters to bring down in terms of the number of hits required. Probably the result of its small size and the way AH damage model assigns the damage to different components.

Physics in the real world unpredictable? Great!, maybe there is hope for FTL travel after all 

He said "unforgiving" not "unpredictable".

[Scca]

Actually Yak-9U became operational later than Yak-3...

Huh?  Citation pls

[LCADolby]

Yak3's E retention is out of this world. 

[Randy1]

I keep thinking the yaks and Las  would be much more prone to pilot wounds since the lack of armor. Or maybe I just keep wishing.

[Rich46yo]

I keep thinking the yaks and Las  would be much more prone to pilot wounds since the lack of armor. Or maybe I just keep wishing.

The Yaks are.

[SmokinLoon]

They are very much like the debate regarding the 109F-4 vs 109G-2.  Ultimately, one has more speed and the other has more maneuverability.

All things considered, I prefer the -9U, it has more range and is faster.  Range being the bigger factor. They handle very similar with a slight edge going to the -3 in the in close knife fights. 

Which Yak model is "better" for a said task should be the discussion, not "which plane is best". 

[save]

AH Yak3 soak up more damage than any other single engine plane in the game, the old yak-9 used to be the damage champ before yak-3 entered the late war arena.

[BnZs]

AH Yak3 soak up more damage than any other single engine plane in the game, the old yak-9 used to be the damage champ before yak-3 entered the late war arena.

This has been my observation as well, but it needs to be tested by some means before complaints about it will be taken seriously.