The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)

[DmonSlyr]

It depends on what the guy does.

If you are going much slower than him as he beams down on your 6 then you should push forward down and do a left/right nose down turn. This sets you up for a lag roll. You do it when they are following you about to black out. Now of course if they miss they are gonna come back around.  You do the same move again. The nose down turn allows you to get some E every time. The key is to get them to follow you in the turn. It takes practice!! Every time they roll around and come back on you they lose E and or get impatient. Once they follow you they will still have a slight bit more E than you. You can lag roll them, they will go vert and you might be able to get a shot. Or they will try to roll too crushing all their E, however you are going slower so you can get inside easier. If you have a better turning plane you should win. It takes a lot of practice, but this is how you take care of BnZers.

I always recommend pushing forward down as a plane is coming on your 6. If you can stay under the attackers nose. They will generally miss from blackout or loss of sight on you. Giving you a chance for a reverse maneuver.
 

[Skyyr]

I always recommend pushing forward down as a plane is coming on your 6. If you can stay under the attackers nose. They will generally miss from blackout or loss of sight on you. Giving you a chance for a reverse maneuver.
 

German 109 pilots used to do this vs Spitfires, as the Spits lacked fuel injection and couldn't perform negative G's maneuvers without starving the engine of fuel.

[nrshida]

German 109 pilots used to do this vs Spitfires, as the Spits lacked fuel injection and couldn't perform negative G's maneuvers without starving the engine of fuel.

And the Hartmann manoeuvre which is very effective and historically accurate.

[BnZs]

And the Hartmann manoeuvre which is very effective and historically accurate.

Both of these involved a single hard neg push, not "porpoising" like you see in the MA though.

[FLOOB]

Typically, if you get in a looping roll fight, at the start of it, its actually better to be a lil slower. This way you can kind of get inside. Once you both get slow it takes throttle, timing, stall control, and flaps. Of you are going fast you have to make larger and higher rolls. When you have a con 600 off your tail. The best maneuver is a lag roll which uses their speed against them, that can be fatel if the enimies follow you. You're right these guys did do this out of desperation. Its not the right move because it completely kills their E. In a lag roll you still have the ability to maintain E and possibly get a shot. Its a complicated move that takes some practice. Most players do not know how to perform one well so they run or stick to these type of tactics in the vid.

P.S I hope to god Floob preys on my ki84 or 109 in that C2 cause it's gonna get fried and I always enjoy fresh C2 or yak for dinner.

I can tell you're new because you call a 202 a c2.

[DmonSlyr]

I can tell you're new because you call a 202 a c2.

I'm pretty sure I have a better rank than you.

[Arlo]

And they stood there well after taps insisting the other render their salute first. 

[Skyyr]

I'm pretty sure I have a better rank than you.

I'm pretty sure most people do. lol

[nrshida]

Both of these involved a single hard neg push, not "porpoising" like you see in the MA though.

But you could do it in succession. They can't be picking their stick up by the base and randomly shaking it or the 'don't move your controls too rapidly' would catch them. They surely also can't accelerate away doing this. It's a trivial matter to use your superior energy to generate some AoT for a bigger target.

I'm not really sure what the complaint is here, I think it's just that they are not giving the instant gratification of easy kills. Some of these floobs will catch a highly skilled player in this position one day and find out it's like having a tiger by the tail, when they get their hands bitten off even when holding all the cards they'll have something to complain about  

[Hap]

Now that I'm approaching my dotage, when I see a pilot flying weirdly, I climb out and fly away.  I just won't put up with it.

[Hoplite]

I'm pretty sure I have a better rank than you.

I'm pretty sure most people do. lol

Interesting how some elements of our community like to pooh pooh rank and score....until it's convienent not to.

Just sayin'.

And they stood there well after taps insisting the other render their salute first. 

Annnnnnnnnnnnnddddd.....  

[DmonSlyr]

Lol! I was totally being sarcastic. Just wanted to see what he would say.

I'm "new"
Hope to catch ya in the MA I'll be looking forward it. PS. Don't get roped!

Ha!

[Hoplite]

Lol! I was totally being sarcastic.

I'm "new"

Floob still thinks even though he's in a C202 he would still have a chance.

Ha!

Ahhh...I understand.

And never say never.  On any given Sunday, as they say!

[Ack-Ack]

I would like to be a protégé either/both of them, frankly.  They kill everything and seem to study the art of ACM vs. spout about "real ACM" on the internet...

"Why don't you use REAL ACM?" is the cry of someone who got whacked, IMHO.  I see it all the time on 200.

I don't think you want to be a RuPaul protégé unless you want to know which color lipstick to wear so it won't clash with your heels during the drag show.  When you shoot him down, you'll have to endure (if you're unlucky enough that he isn't muted already) his PMs and over channel 200 telling you how much you suck, how gay you are, how you HO'd him, etc.

He's also not one to look up if you want to learn any ACM, unless you want to know the finer points of running from a fight.  Then in that case, he's a treasure trove of information.

ack-ack

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I don't think you want to be a RuPaul protégé unless you want to know which color lipstick to wear so it won't clash with your heels during the drag show.  When you shoot him down, you'll have to endure (if you're unlucky enough that he isn't muted already) his PMs and over channel 200 telling you how much you suck, how gay you are, how you HO'd him, etc.

He's also not one to look up if you want to learn any ACM, unless you want to know the finer points of running from a fight.  Then in that case, he's a treasure trove of information.

ack-ack

QFT