Video card

[MrRiplEy[H]]

They also can cause rattling fans (in the case of my friends 7870 from sapphire which had rattling fans and stopped working one day and had to be RMAed but was damaged in shipping and thats his fault now i guess)
And they also can be made with terrible parts (in the case of someone I knew on a minecraft server in which his MSI twin frozzer 760 which had a capacitor blow up, so much for "military class caps")
And my galaxy 560ti that would get up to 100*C (or atleast thats what the temperature program maxed out at) and had fans running 4000 RPM constantly but galaxy said it was my fault because it was running on "bad power supply" (seasonic 850w is bad now i guess). Finally when that card gave out I pulled it apart and did a delid on it. Turns out the TIM between the actual GPU die itself and the IHS was not even installed. (not talking about heatsink TIM and GPU IHS here)
Example of what a delid is(on a i5 4670k):

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So far my old "Junk" reference 660ti from EVGA has been working fine for a year solid now. (which btw the fan never goes over 2000 RPM in any game and temps never over 70*C)

The only company I have not heard bad about is ASUS and EVGA so im with them.

And this buid quality problem had what to do with the special cooling solution? It's just as possible to have a shoddy build using the reference board. Sapphire is one of the lowest priced brands so you got what you paid for. I have a Sapphire 4870 that endured with zero problems for 4 years of gaming use but it self destructed when I started litecoin mining with it and pushed the fan to 100%. The bearing of the fan started to make huge noise after a week of mining. Consumer electronics is _not_ intended for 24/7 server use. Period.

The fact is that many cards are just too loud using the reference design and aftermarket modifications with heatpipes and twin coolers can reduce the noise levels to a whisper. If you run a card that's designed to overclock on regular settings, the fan will most likely never speed up from the idle speed. By the way, wouldn't you think that a card that's factory overclocked or overclockable, would have a proper build quality in the cooler more likely than a regular model?

[olds442]

And this buid quality problem had what to do with the special cooling solution? It's just as possible to have a shoddy build using the reference board. Sapphire is one of the lowest priced brands so you got what you paid for. I have a Sapphire 4870 that endured with zero problems for 4 years of gaming use but it self destructed when I started litecoin mining with it and pushed the fan to 100%. The bearing of the fan started to make huge noise after a week of mining. Consumer electronics is _not_ intended for 24/7 server use. Period.

The fact is that many cards are just too loud using the reference design and aftermarket modifications with heatpipes and twin coolers can reduce the noise levels to a whisper. If you run a card that's designed to overclock on regular settings, the fan will most likely never speed up from the idle speed. By the way, wouldn't you think that a card that's factory overclocked or overclockable, would have a proper build quality in the cooler more likely than a regular model?

No it would be marketed to gamers who don't know better.

[Rich46yo]

I have no problem recommending the GTX780. I stay with NVIDIA due to my good experiences with them.

I still have a GTX580 sitting around. I'll get around to selling it some day or maybe just keep it as a 2nd. Ive had real good luck with their products.

One thing Ive noticed is each and every time Ive had driver error mssg's or even BSD's a simple reseat of my NVIDIA card has cured it. It doesnt happen often, maybe once every few months. But i have two heavy DVI cables attached to it and they seem to work the card off kilter a bit over time. So before anyone starts screaming "OMG" when these problems crop up they can almost always be solved with a re-seat of cards and memory sticks. That or its a simple driver problem.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I have no problem recommending the GTX780. I stay with NVIDIA due to my good experiences with them.

I still have a GTX580 sitting around. I'll get around to selling it some day or maybe just keep it as a 2nd. Ive had real good luck with their products.

One thing Ive noticed is each and every time Ive had driver error mssg's or even BSD's a simple reseat of my NVIDIA card has cured it. It doesnt happen often, maybe once every few months. But i have two heavy DVI cables attached to it and they seem to work the card off kilter a bit over time. So before anyone starts screaming "OMG" when these problems crop up they can almost always be solved with a re-seat of cards and memory sticks. That or its a simple driver problem.

Well as you guessed if you have problems every few _months_ then it's unusually lot of problems. All my ATI hardware has been drop in and forget type of maintenance. You say you haven't had problems with nvidia, I guess you didn't play with computers in the geforce - geforce256 ages?

[Brooke]

I've owned a lot of NVidia and Radeon cards.  Mostly, they have all been good.  What causes me to pick NVidia these days is that some of them take less power than comparable Radeons and, in the past (not necessarily that recent), I liked the antialiasing effect on NVidia cards more than Radeon.  In the more-recent past, I didn't like the Radeon driver software that much, but that was still a while back.  I haven't tried Radeons in the past several years, and all of this stuff fluctuates over time, so I wouldn't expect those older impressions to last.  Overall, I think that people are probably going to be happy with either one, NVidia or Radeon, and that they are very competitive with each other.

[Rich46yo]

Well as you guessed if you have problems every few _months_ then it's unusually lot of problems. All my ATI hardware has been drop in and forget type of maintenance. You say you haven't had problems with nvidia, I guess you didn't play with computers in the geforce - geforce256 ages?

Oh I had a few ATIs that were total junk. Theres a reason I went to Nvidia.

I went thru two ATIs in my video editing days. They fried even tho I had a video accelerator card installed to take the main workload.

They run hot. The ATIs do. I think most people would have been able to figure out its my MB slot fitting that causes my vid card to loosen contacts occasionally. And Im not about to replace an otherwise good MB for such a trivial problem.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Oh I had a few ATIs that were total junk. Theres a reason I went to Nvidia.

I went thru two ATIs in my video editing days. They fried even tho I had a video accelerator card installed to take the main workload.

They run hot. The ATIs do. I think most people would have been able to figure out its my MB slot fitting that causes my vid card to loosen contacts occasionally. And Im not about to replace an otherwise good MB for such a trivial problem.

Heh if they fried you were doing something wrong. Bad PSU, bad ventilation you name it. I abandoned nvidia after the geforce2 model because they had a completely flawed RF filtering circuit that made your 2D desktop soft and blurry even if you had a hand picked premium display like I did. This problem was gone with the introduction of DVI but the price premium of nvidia still has kept me away from them.

Lately I've been thinking that my next card could possibly be an nvidia since they've become more competitive in pricing and they work much better with linux.

[Debrody]

Being a fanboy is just wrong. Both the Ati and the Nvidia have made horrible and awesome products. Remember the geforce FX, the HD-2xxx series, they were failures, but that was a long time ago and both companies are selling good products nowadays.

Get all the info available, then decide. Where i live, the gef 7xx and the radeons are nearly on the same level of price/performance, now.

[Rich46yo]

Heh if they fried you were doing something wrong.

Yeah I bought it.

Your the one that turned this into a fanboi thread. You had no idea about what you were talking about and was completely wrong blaming anything on my vid card. Bah! Im done with this, as if I dont hear enough of this AMD/Nvidia nonsense on other forums.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Yeah I bought it.

Your the one that turned this into a fanboi thread. You had no idea about what you were talking about and was completely wrong blaming anything on my vid card. Bah! Im done with this, as if I dont hear enough of this AMD/Nvidia nonsense on other forums.

If you heard enough why do you spread fud like 'all your atis burned' then? The RMA rates of the ATI cards are equal or lower to the nvidias of the same period. Remember the FX series? Nvidia has had multiple development patches which had high failure rates. A whole generation of various brands of laptops suffered an untimely death with the nvidia chip burning in them.

Macbooks for example are equiped with nvidia gpus. There was an extended warranty provided by Apple to 2010 era laptops which had a faulty nvidia chip in them (after a class action law suit I think). I had a macbook with a nvidia chip fail on me but the reason was different. Fun fact: the failure of those integrated chips like that of mine was caused by heat detaching the surface soldering. This could be temporarely fixed by inserting your stripped laptop to an oven with 200c heat (or by blowing it with a heat gun like I did to mine). Unfortunately if the heat problem was not fixed (which is hard on a laptop) the soldering gave away usually in a few weeks time. Mine lasted for 2 months. I wonder how many people bought a 'fixed' sample from Ebay that had a life expectancy of 2 weeks.

So no, Nvidia is not clearly more reliable, that's just your personal opinion based on either user error or bad luck with product samples.

[Chalenge]

Hehe, maybe on your city block Ripley. Checking for actual online reports will disclose a different result. Origin says it is a full percentage point in the opposite direction over a three year period, and that in the last year it has gotten much worse (as high as 3.8% worse).

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052184/whats-behind-origin-pcs-decision-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html

[-ammo-]

I bought a MSI GTX 770 last year and can't be happier.  I run 1440 resolution and I get max frame rates for my monitor which is limited to 60.   It's frickin beautiful.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Hehe, maybe on your city block Ripley. Checking for actual online reports will disclose a different result. Origin says it is a full percentage point in the opposite direction over a three year period, and that in the last year it has gotten much worse (as high as 3.8% worse).

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052184/whats-behind-origin-pcs-decision-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html

Could Nvidia have purchased Origin’s fealty with marketing dollars?

”It certainly sounds feasible,” says Jon Peddie, founder and analyst at Jon Peddie research.

  anyone who knows near history knows that Nvidia has pulled of unfair practices over and over again.

The decision to take AMD GPU’s off the web was made based on support. More Specifically, support from AMD to Origin, and Origin to our customers.

Support from AMD to Origin hasn’t been where it should be or up to par like we get from other vendors. In my opinion it's due to our size. We don’t move enough AMD product for them to worry about us.

Translation: Origin gets their panties in a twist because AMD doesn't dance to their tune due to their size and hits back by endorsing the competition.

[Chalenge]

Clutching at straw, Ripley.

[zack1234]

I have a  gtx680 it went pop after 3 months took pc back shop and they put new one in