Whats the best Luftwaffe fighter in the game and why?

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The A8 flown correctly with better than average SA, is a killer, not only against buffs, I get equal or better  K/D in the A8 as I get in any other 190.

Without good SA you are dead meat, but that includes not only 190s.

True, but you forget the corollary to that-  "No more kills".
Wiley.

[Wiley]

The A8 flown correctly with better than average SA, is a killer, not only against buffs, I get equal or better  K/D in the A8 as I get in any other 190.

Without good SA you are dead meat, but that includes not only 190s.

Was mostly just joshing, and I don't mean it in a chest-thumping way, but I can't think of the last time I felt threatened in my D11 1v1 by an A8 when it wasn't doing really conservative BnZ and I was low E.  It just seems to me the toughest of the 190s to do well in.  Anything twistier would only make it worse on the 190 IMO.

Multiple vs multiple is where it comes into its own, but that's a completely different kind of fight and I still feel against fighters the others are better choices.

Wiley.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Got to be the G-14... You've got most of the K-4 performance down low with a little lower weight/better turn and 20 mil ballistics for when you're dealing with escorts. To go buff hunting, you can carry gondies or raketen. You've always got an option in the G-14 - not so in most of the 190 variants, save the A-5. They are dead, dead, dead, at low E. Generally, when I see a 190 and I'm in any 109, as long as he's not above me, I'm not concerned. I can't say that about Mr. Spitty. Of course, a 109 with gondies is pretty worthless in a dogfight, too, but at least you can dress for the occasion.

Now, if we had the G-10...

[Brooke]

Assuming we are limiting it to prop planes, in a scenario setting, the best are 190D's and 109K's.  Which one depends on pilot preference.  I've flown them both a fair amount in scenarios and prefer the 190D because of its excellent handling at high speeds, excellent roll rate, and lots of ammo.  They are fabulous planes for a scenario environment (many on many fights, high alts often involved, high speed often involved, etc.).  The speed, handling, lethality, and ammo load give you the ability to get in, flick quickly to position for shot, give a good burst, flick to a new position, shoot more, etc.

[XxDaSTaRxx]

109F4 is the best dog fighter for German aircraft.

[Bruv119]

Even though i like flying the D9 so much, the K4 is the ultimate fighter plane. Not only the best fighter of the Luftwaffe, but arguably the best and most fun-to-fly fighter in AH, excluding the jets.

thanks for finally agreeing with me k4 = easymode,   

I like the 190 Dora for MA stuff all round attributes.

for actually fighting your opponent instead of usual luftwaffe tactics the 109 F4 is the bees knees.  I'd rather go one round with wakeem than 100 hours flying immelmanns.

[Debrody]

talking about tactics, what about the "pick it just after the takeoff then call it a good fair fight" one?
how i cant stand you

[Nath[BDP]]

K4 without a doubt.  What it can't outturn it can outrun, what it can't outrun it can outturn.  Acceleration and speed allow it to dictate any fight.  It has the lethality to tangle low, escape when needed, and decimate people with one hit on the overshoot.

[PJ_Godzilla]

talking about tactics, what about the "pick it just after the takeoff then call it a good fair fight" one?
how i cant stand you

Sounds like bad blood... I'd love to hear the back story but am sensitive to the always-dangling lock sword. I will say, nobody likes getting vulched, but then, it's tough at 10k when somebody in a Temp comes screaming down from 15k as well. I don't think there's much by way of the "fair fight" in the MA. It seems like that's all about acquiring an a priori advantage and exploiting it.

[FLOOB]

Its funny that this thread is still going when the answer is so obvious. The question wasnt "whats your favorite nazi fighter?".

[R 105]

Hey thats good to hear!
What i can say: get close, look for crossing snapshots and lead a lot. Once you begin to really feel it, you will be a damned killer machine 

[PJ_Godzilla]

109F4 is the best dog fighter for German aircraft.

True, but let me ask you for some advice... I was getting some 1v1 with a Spit 16. I started with the F-4 but found myself consistently overmatched, it seemed. If I tried to out turn him, I'd invariably end up with him taking lead shots on me (perhaps I wasn't in the sweet spot of the f4s speed versus turn rate curve? - and where is that? for the g-4, its somewhere in the 250-325 range). The vertical was just as bad. It seemed liked I'd run out of energy well before him and my loops would collapse or worse... Invariably, after losing 3 of 4, I'd up the g-14. At least with that it was fairly easy to retain advantage: dive while using roll to track target, pull up and roll to put my canopy on the spit, dive again. If my lead shots were better, this would be more or less foolproof.

[Debrody]

Sounds like bad blood... I'd love to hear the back story but am sensitive to the always-dangling lock sword. I will say, nobody likes getting vulched, but then, it's tough at 10k when somebody in a Temp comes screaming down from 15k as well. I don't think there's much by way of the "fair fight" in the MA. It seems like that's all about acquiring an a priori advantage and exploiting it.

Its not about his usual MA score-'horing in his tempon but doing the same in the koth toc. Yea i definiately have a bad taste about him, especially since he have done something dirty yet hes posing as Mr Sportsmanship.

You might know that i wasnt a runner, not even in a 190, yet his comment about running as the luft tactic is just bad-willing and disgusting.

[BaldEagl]

True, but let me ask you for some advice... I was getting some 1v1 with a Spit 16. I started with the F-4 but found myself consistently overmatched, it seemed.

I had just the opposite experience several years ago vs TonyJoey.  He was in the F4 and I tried the Spit XVI then the Spit V.  After five matches I went somewhere else.  There was nothing I could do to beat him. 

I consider TonyJoey one of the better sticks in the game but at the same time I don't consider myself to be that bad.  The F4 is very capable against any of the Spits.

[McShark]

109F4 is the best dog fighter for German aircraft.

She truly is!