Author Topic: Boot inactive players to keep ENY realistic especially during off-peak hours  (Read 5559 times)

Offline kvuo75

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A few guys sitting AFK when there's only 30 or less to a side is a significant impact on ENY, which affects the other players for no good reason.  There's some truth to what Hitech's saying, that it's probably generally somewhat close to equal on all sides most of the time, but what good reason is there to allow it?

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lusche sits in tower for a perfectly legit reason..

good enough for me. fix the "problem" by allowing more switching instead. ive been in favor of getting rid of war win perks for quite some time also.

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if eny keeps me from flying my p-51d--i simply fly a different plane :bolt:
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Booting the tower sitters from the other 2 countries won't help your ENY.

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Booting the tower sitters from the other 2 countries won't help your ENY.

If the number of tower sitters were exactly equal on all sides, it would technically make it worse.  If the percentage were the same, no effect.

Bah.  Just do away with ENY.  Problem solved.

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Bah.  Just do away with ENY.  Problem solved.





There is absolutely no problem with ENY. Those people who complain about it want it removed so they can continue to club the proverbial baby seal of whichever side has the fewest number of active players, and then run away into the sunset with their Pony.

The solution is very simple.

When ENY prevents you from taking off in your late war uber-ride of choice you can either switch to a side with fewer players or choose one of the wonderful higher ENY aircraft and accept that until the sides balance out you're not going to be able to run away from everything.

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There is absolutely no problem with ENY. Those people who complain about it want it removed so they can continue to club the proverbial baby seal of whichever side has the fewest number of active players, and then run away into the sunset with their Pony.

The solution is very simple.

When ENY prevents you from taking off in your late war uber-ride of choice you can either switch to a side with fewer players or choose one of the wonderful higher ENY aircraft and accept that until the sides balance out you're not going to be able to run away from everything.



Plenty of things are wrong with ENY.  This is only the latest discussion.  By the way, have you checked the ENY values for all aircraft and vehicles?  What about, have you ever joined a pick up mission that failed due to ENY?  I mean sat in the tower waiting for the mission to roll and then poof... there goes all that planning.  Speaking of which, a simple Lancaster bomber mission was just recently scrubbed at a point when action on the map was rather dull.  ENY is not just about Pony pilots.  I can fly just about any 109 variant at any time.  I wouldn't use the word uber to describe the rides that are / aren't effected.

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Actually I have done that quite a lot of times. Well, not really recording 200, but the chat in total to analyze the bombers landing messages.


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One of the main causes for the perception of "tower sitters ruin 'our'" ENY is the occasional observation that with high and very high ENY the percentage of tower sitters can be much higher at times.
This however is often also a result of ENY, players sitting in tower because they "can't fly anything" (complains like that usually start at ENY 5). And this is happening much more at offpeak, because due to overall smaller numbers ENY imbalances generally tend to be more radical.
Also during offpeak, the number of 'tower sitters' can also be increased because  there's often actually little to do for them when there's only very few players populating a large map.


It's very similar to the old assumption of "sideswitchers looking for war perks" are creating a huge numerical advantage (and possibly ENY issues) for for the team winning the war. Actually it was (and still is) the other way around: The impending victory is a result of that numerical advantage which has almost entirely different causes.

I remember the day your country had a high eny, so you sat in the tower for what like seem forever.  then you took 1/2 log in players to the ww1 arena.  I fell asleep that night and woke just as you guys were coming back.


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When ENY prevents you from taking off in your late war uber-ride of choice you can either switch to a side with fewer players or choose one of the wonderful higher ENY aircraft and accept that until the sides balance out you're not going to be able to run away from everything.

What if I already switched sides 9 hours ago?

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What if I already switched sides 9 hours ago?

Then until HTC comes to it's senses and lowers the switch time you'll have to man up and fly a real plane.  :P

I'm partial to the 109G6 personally, but you have other options.  :D
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Then until HTC comes to it's senses and lowers the switch time you'll have to man up and fly a real plane.  :P

I'm partial to the 109G6 personally, but you have other options.  :D

I only ever fly 30 eny planes. The thing that upsets me is when there is nothing but green dar bars everywhere and I'm stuck with them for another 10 hours.  :( :cry

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Plenty of things are wrong with ENY.  This is only the latest discussion.  By the way, have you checked the ENY values for all aircraft and vehicles?  What about, have you ever joined a pick up mission that failed due to ENY?  I mean sat in the tower waiting for the mission to roll and then poof... there goes all that planning.  Speaking of which, a simple Lancaster bomber mission was just recently scrubbed at a point when action on the map was rather dull.  ENY is not just about Pony pilots.  I can fly just about any 109 variant at any time.  I wouldn't use the word uber to describe the rides that are / aren't effected.

Can't have been very good planning if enemy numbers and ENY are not checked through the planning stage.


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Yeah. Strat bombers.

strat bombers do look at the map from time to time right?

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strat bombers do look at the map from time to time right?

Maybe - maybe not. What if they got up and made a sammich enroute?

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Can't have been very good planning if enemy numbers and ENY are not checked through the planning stage.


There's more than just the lanc in the hanger. *points furiously at the wonderful 111*

I enjoy the He111 even if it is slow with a belly full.  

Problem is two fold.  ENY changes without warning, ENY 5 being the first to get dumped at any moment.  Second, lot of folks will only choose equipment that they feel comfortable with and won't join pickup missions that are questionable from the beginning (flying planes   :joystick: they haven't even setup views in yet  :uhoh ).

So, this brings up an even bigger question.  Is ENY designed to slow down the numbers in missions or to balance numbers.  I can say that in both cases the outcome is less of what AHaddicts  like myself care to suffer through, not merely the limits on choice, but rather the reactions of others, some logging off  :furious

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I enjoy the He111 even if it is slow with a belly full.  

Problem is two fold.  ENY changes without warning, ENY 5 being the first to get dumped at any moment.  Second, lot of folks will only choose equipment that they feel comfortable with and won't join pickup missions that are questionable from the beginning (flying planes   :joystick: they haven't even setup views in yet  :uhoh ).

So, this brings up an even bigger question.  Is ENY designed to slow down the numbers in missions or to balance numbers.  I can say that in both cases the outcome is less of what AHaddicts  like myself care to suffer through, not merely the limits on choice, but rather the reactions of others, some logging off  :furious

For all those poor players who can't get by without their ENY 5 aircraft when they have twice the numbers of the next largest country..

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