C47's

[catdaddy]

Dc-3's (C-47's) had a unique design feature that made it possible to actually land the acft wheels up and not do any damage at all. The wheels protruded enough from the engine nacelles to accommodate an engine off landing, after touchdown the acft could be jacked up, drop the gear again, be repaired and takeoff. can we at least land them without the grinding crunching screeching to a halt belly-up landing noises?

[APDrone]

Ok.. that sent me surfing around looking for any proof..

Looking at the pics, I have a hard time believing this.. UNLESS it was based on the DC-3 originally having a 2 bladed prop and it could be feathered in position that would be parallel to the wing.

ALSO.. just because the wheel is exposed and would be between the aircraft and the ground, does not mean that there was enough load bearing capacity on the gear in the retracted position to prevent the wheel from getting shoved up through the nacelle. 

But, an interesting conjecture, certainly.

Got the documentation for that?

[Chalenge]

Completely untrue. The wheels in the retracted position do not have proper rigidity and would not support the weight.

[RotBaron]

idk anything about them other than they are pretty cool inside, went in the one (DC-3) at Falcon Field, Mesa AZ.

And just saw this one:

[Chalenge]

The debris from the engines coming apart might also cause injury to your troops.

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/c47_yic/merlin_2.htm

or the prop might cause injury to the pilot:

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/c47_yic/c47rep1.htm

[danny76]

The debris from the engines coming apart might also cause injury to your troops.

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/c47_yic/merlin_2.htm

or the prop might cause injury to the pilot:

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/c47_yic/c47rep1.htm

good pics

[mbailey]

idk anything about them other than they are pretty cool inside, went in the one (DC-3) at Falcon Field, Mesa AZ.

And just saw this one:

(Image removed from quote.)


(Image removed from quote.)

Nice bird 

[catdaddy]

better read a little more than just wiki

[Chalenge]

Yes, I thought this one was very telling about belly landings:

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/c47_yic/c47b2006.htm

[earl1937]

better read a little more than just wiki

Guys, the only reason the  "spad" has protruding landing gear is so snow ski's can be attached and retracked during flight. I had about 250 hours in Douglas N13300 and we had "snow" shoes on it twice. Was a blast landing up hill, keeping speed up, reverese direction, then stop and let  the "nuts' out who wanted to ski down the mountain! Takeoffs were fun, just head it down hill, about 3/4 throttle, 5 degrees nose up trim, keep it straight with your feet, first thing you know, you have made a perfect takeoff and you didn't have to touch a thing except rudder pedals.

[mbailey]

Guys, the only reason the  "spad" has protruding landing gear is so snow ski's can be attached and retracked during flight. I had about 250 hours in Douglas N13300 and we had "snow" shoes on it twice. Was a blast landing up hill, keeping speed up, reverese direction, then stop and let  the "nuts' out who wanted to ski down the mountain! Takeoffs were fun, just head it down hill, about 3/4 throttle, 5 degrees nose up trim, keep it straight with your feet, first thing you know, you have made a perfect takeoff and you didn't have to touch a thing except rudder pedals.

Dont know if that sounds like fun, or if its nuts 

[earl1937]

Dont know if that sounds like fun, or if its nuts 

A little of both, was still partly in stupid stage, (less than 30 and bullet proof), but with out a little of stupid in people, look how much would not have been discovered!!

[colmbo]

Those down hill takeoffs can be odd in that after "lifting off" you might still be descending.

[Traveler]

Dc-3's (C-47's) had a unique design feature that made it possible to actually land the acft wheels up and not do any damage at all. The wheels protruded enough from the engine nacelles to accommodate an engine off landing, after touchdown the acft could be jacked up, drop the gear again, be repaired and takeoff. can we at least land them without the grinding crunching screeching to a halt belly-up landing noises?

Where did you get this information from?  As far as I know it is not correct.  I have several thousand hours in DC3's used for passenger service by Monmouth Airlines,  prior to going to Eastern and 727's, way back when.

[earl1937]

Where did you get this information from?  As far as I know it is not correct.  I have several thousand hours in DC3's used for passenger service by Monmouth Airlines,  prior to going to Eastern and 727's, way back when.

Man, if you were typed in the "3 holer" then you were from way back! I am not sure where it got his info on the gear on the "spad" or "gooney bird", but I too never heard of that!