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« Reply #165 on: June 02, 2014, 12:16:24 AM »
I will agree with Brooke however about some education being incredibly taxing and difficult.  I have a degree in what many would consider a basket weaving field, history.  I went into one of the most difficult civilian training programs you can after completing that, before I was even 20 (IFR ATC).  Neither of these held a candle to the distance learning I did last year through Standford's computer science department, specifically the artificial intelligence lab/machine learning under Prof Thrun.  The 20 year old kids in that program that can blast through the math and eng in that program are far, far smarter than I am, or ever was, or ever will be when it comes to STEM.  I would never have gotten through the first semester without a ton of hand holding and help groups, and I honestly would have zero shot at ever completing a graduate level degree in this area on my own.  None.  The students in today's STEM studies, particularly at the very technically advanced schools, but even everywhere else, are truly something else compared to 20+ years ago when I was first starting post secondary.  The frustration I felt while in that AI program - I would take going back and doing PSD work, and getting possibly being ambushed every week over banging my head against that wall ever again, in a flash.

It's ridiculous, especially the medical related fields, and subatomic physics. Those fields are moving ahead exponentially.

My best friend Jacob is doing grad work at Stanford as well. I asked him what he was working on, and he said something about planck-aether, whatever the hell that is; I didn't follow his explanation. I try to stay relatively well caught up on this stuff, but it just drove home the fact that if you don't do work in a field, you've got no real chance to stay on the cutting edge.

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« Reply #166 on: June 02, 2014, 12:36:22 AM »
I think everyone is missing the joke - it was more of an inter-service poke from Junky I think than anything else.  I'm sure Junky knows Ghost is in the Navy, and Junky being Army, you have to expect a certain amount of back and forth.  I don't think he meant to slight anything about education/university/etc, at least that's what I first thought reading it.
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Re: Your profession?
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« Reply #168 on: June 02, 2014, 05:30:47 AM »
It's ridiculous, especially the medical related fields, and subatomic physics. Those fields are moving ahead exponentially.

My best friend Jacob is doing grad work at Stanford as well. I asked him what he was working on, and he said something about planck-aether, whatever the hell that is; I didn't follow his explanation. I try to stay relatively well caught up on this stuff, but it just drove home the fact that if you don't do work in a field, you've got no real chance to stay on the cutting edge.

I'm not sure I could still get admitted to any of the degree programs I completed at either UM or Stanford. I'll say this: the admissions process is radically more competitive than it used to be. I still reckon lit, history, english, anthro, socio, etc. , are a good deal easier to complete than the engineering/science based stuff. Back in the day, the sophomore level eng/physics/math classes has 50-70% drop rates. Even sophomore calculus was difficult for a lot of people.
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« Reply #169 on: June 02, 2014, 08:47:15 AM »
My company provides aerial surveillance for federal law enforcement, private security, and global military forces. Condor Aerial.
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« Reply #170 on: June 02, 2014, 09:00:01 AM »
who else do you sell to that is the question..  :rofl
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« Reply #171 on: June 02, 2014, 09:02:13 AM »
Since the system cost starts at around 64K for a 3 hour flight time and 25 mile range (as an electric aircraft) we don't see any civilian request.
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« Reply #172 on: June 02, 2014, 09:14:01 AM »
Between all the technology and entrepenurisn that occurs in this country.. there is no way enemies can run the show.. its a world balancer..  We need more people like Condor thanks for stepping it up brother!!
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« Reply #173 on: June 02, 2014, 09:52:25 AM »
I fly around to different places and collect hotel keys and eat in lots of restaurants.

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« Reply #174 on: June 02, 2014, 10:09:49 AM »
A letterpress profession?

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« Reply #175 on: June 02, 2014, 12:31:53 PM »
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« Reply #176 on: June 02, 2014, 01:13:15 PM »
well my Job is a blessing and a curse....

I create art for a living...the only living art....and have done so since 1988

but that means dealing with people and what they consider "art" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #177 on: June 02, 2014, 01:33:52 PM »
I'm not sure I could still get admitted to any of the degree programs I completed at either UM or Stanford. I'll say this: the admissions process is radically more competitive than it used to be. I still reckon lit, history, english, anthro, socio, etc. , are a good deal easier to complete than the engineering/science based stuff. Back in the day, the sophomore level eng/physics/math classes has 50-70% drop rates. Even sophomore calculus was difficult for a lot of people.

One day I was taking the Megabus back to school and I ended up sitting next to this older guy (60s, early 70s maybe). I was studying for calc 3 and he made a comment to the effect of 'I'm glad I didn't have to do math like that when I was in school'. This of course prompted me to ask him what he majored in, assuming some kind of social science or bio maybe-- the response was 'math and physics at Ohio State' :O

I also think that the difficulty and perceptions of a lot of majors are really unfair. I'm in chemistry but a lot of my friends are English majors or whatever and they do a LOT of work and put in a lot of effort, more than I do a lot of the time probably to get similar results. And I'm not all that bright.

And as one of my best friends, who's an English major, says, 'I know engineers think were stupid, but don't get me wrong, we read things they write and we think they're idiots'
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« Reply #178 on: June 02, 2014, 02:08:27 PM »
One day I was taking the Megabus back to school and I ended up sitting next to this older guy (60s, early 70s maybe). I was studying for calc 3 and he made a comment to the effect of 'I'm glad I didn't have to do math like that when I was in school'. This of course prompted me to ask him what he majored in, assuming some kind of social science or bio maybe-- the response was 'math and physics at Ohio State' :O

I also think that the difficulty and perceptions of a lot of majors are really unfair. I'm in chemistry but a lot of my friends are English majors or whatever and they do a LOT of work and put in a lot of effort, more than I do a lot of the time probably to get similar results. And I'm not all that bright.

And as one of my best friends, who's an English major, says, 'I know engineers think were stupid, but don't get me wrong, we read things they write and we think they're idiots'

Yes, but, I've coined a term to underscore the fundamental distinction between the two worlds: empiricity. A wing section, just for example, generates lift because of principles that are beyond man's control. Ultimately, the "hard" sciences are disciplined by reality. The airplane flies or does not. The "soft" topiics, and I include part of what I learned in b-school here, but not most of it, since things like econ and finance to mea re really much like engineering, have no such test, ultimately, and, as such, also seem to have diminished utility and difficulty. Understand also, I could've gone either way, having a perfectly balanced SAT before I embarked on the whole Aero Engin thing.

Next time your English major friend talks to an engineer, tell him to reserve judgment and, instead, do his job and ask the engineer, "do you want fries with that?" Empiriicty again: if they're really that stupid, how come they tend employable and valuable, yet the same does not obtain for English majors? I accept that the latter work. The problem for them is, that work does not provide a lot of valued utility to others, at least as measured by the market. That's okay, so long as they understand the tradeoff... but judging by a lot of complaints I hear from people, many do not.

As for you: Chem... hmmm... probably a pretty good way to go these days.
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« Reply #179 on: June 02, 2014, 02:35:39 PM »
PJ I assume your an engineer then.
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