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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2014, 02:01:51 PM »
I think the 262 hooks new players into the game. I remember when I first joined I'd spend hours in the TA just buzzing around in one just freaking on the awsomeness.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2014, 02:23:03 PM »
When I first started the game all I could dream of was having enough perks to fly a 262, after what seemed like forever I finally had enough.  I took off away from the fight climbed to 15k to be safe,  saw a low unaware set of lancs rtb and blew past them didn't hit at all, tried to pull up  after the shot and realized I could not move the controls, I didn't know what compression is, so needless to say I sailed into the ground at 650+ mph, and that was my frist sortie in a 262 and what seemed like months of work earning perks. Lol

The 262 is to me a iconic airplane to fly, the first jet to enter combat, it to me is like the 51 to chose that idolize the pony. I fly a 262 maybe few times a tour lose them more often then not but nothing is more fun then ripping into a horde cap field and watching fighters scattor, I rarely hit sith it but the fun is more in watching red planes diving out of9f the way scared to get hit, unaware how shotty my shooting is :). That is all I got lol :cheers:
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2014, 02:35:10 PM »
Your stats are based on kills by, right?  Most of the 262s I see flying are trying to kill unaware fighters with limited success.


In 2013 the 262 killed
- 14,113 fighters. That means the 262 caused 0.95% of all fighter A2A deaths
- 16,685 bombers. That's 3.11% of all bomber A2A deaths

Me 262 k/d vs all fighters: 4.35
Me 262 k/d vs all bombers (excluding C-47!): 11.31
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2014, 02:48:44 PM »

In 2013 the 262 killed
- 14,113 fighters. That means the 262 caused 0.95% of all fighter A2A deaths
- 16,685 bombers. That's 3.11% of all bomber A2A deaths

Me 262 k/d vs all fighters: 4.35
Me 262 k/d vs all bombers (excluding C-47!): 11.31

Idk, i have always had the feeling that attacking heavy bombers (B17/B24) was the biggest threat for my 262. Fighters only could hurt me with a HO what is easy to avoid while those buggers were spamming 50s in every direction like crazy.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2014, 02:58:06 PM »
Idk, i have always had the feeling that attacking heavy bombers (B17/B24) was the biggest threat for my 262. Fighters only could hurt me with a HO what is easy to avoid while those buggers were spamming 50s in every direction like crazy.

I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2014, 03:43:43 PM »
I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....

My SA is never an issue when I fly the 262.  I'm downright paranoid in that thing. Flying it is like walking (albeit very quickly) while wearing a gold crown through the worst part of town. You WILL get noticed. The real issue for me is catching a stray .50 thru an engine, and then limping home for 10 minutes only to roll inverted at the end of the runway.  :cry
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2014, 03:55:52 PM »
I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....
True. I have died uncountable times to enemy fighters (the most common: very poor SA, misjudging energy states, jumped on takeoff, hitting the autopilot at 500ft 200mph, caught while TnBing, accepted a ho, mass head on by 20+ players  :rofl , all kind of stupid and funny reasons), but theese were always my mistakes. Still, bombers were always just slowly eating my plane. One little ping here, another there, and after the 4th, 5th pass, my jet just fell apart - nothing i could do about it but reupping in a fresh machine.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2014, 06:51:22 PM »
4th or 5th pass?  :huh   Do you not shoot at them too?
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2014, 06:55:16 PM »
Most ppl are not use to the 262 and it tater guns. Those who are can become godlike...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2014, 09:49:28 PM »
Most ppl are not use to the 262 and it tater guns. Those who are can become godlike...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4

I think of the Mk 108 as more of a grenade launcher than a cannon. Sort of like a derringer howitzer.  :)
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2014, 09:55:54 PM »
By the way, who's fussing about 262s? :headscratch:
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2014, 11:23:57 PM »
I think of the Mk 108 as more of a grenade launcher than a cannon. Sort of like a derringer howitzer.  :)

I know a lot of people do, but it really isn't a grenade launcher. With more than twice the muzzle velocity of a typical grenade launcher, its ballistics are closer to that of an M1 Carbine.  :)
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2014, 01:06:51 AM »
I remember several years ago I killed a flight of three 262's with an F6F-5.   :rofl

I was bomb trucking when I ran across them and they decided to dogfight me.  Oops.
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2014, 01:15:15 AM »
4th or 5th pass?  :huh   Do you not shoot at them too?
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Re: Why Are People Fussing About 262's?
« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2014, 01:50:24 PM »
By the way, who's fussing about 262s? :headscratch:

Anyone who manages to get shot down by one and cant handle it I suppose.