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Offline LCADolby

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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 03:20:46 AM »
Nishi, you could have done a "skyyr" and claimed it was a training session trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes, but didn't.  :aok
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 05:12:01 AM »
Cheap shot not a HO.

With only one other plane around, it probably could have been avoided for fun.
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 09:54:45 AM »
One more thing, had I been  :joystick: at the controls I likely would have made the slight turn into him and made my break just before getting into gun range..... Just as I had done numerous times earlier in the day.   Again, I complimented his h2h shooting abilities.... HO accusations were a figment of his own guilty conscience.  I personally do see a distinction between what really happened and the way it was portrayed here.  

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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 10:21:37 AM »
I side with Nishi and Shida. While not a pure H2H shot, it's definitely front quarter and obviously someone taking the EASY way out. Shida labeled it correctly...someone just  trying to add to their score card. While it looks impressive and most likely pads Skyrr's ego, to anyone who actually fights for his score, it's a CHEAP SHOT.
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 10:38:57 AM »
While I don't agree with how Skyyr goes about things as far as coming here on the Forums with these videos with noticable ppl of worthy skill.

I will say that Skyyr's flying is nothing different from what I enjoy doing and what many others enjoy doing.

You can't go into the MA with a DA mindset and the same goes for the DA.
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 10:45:16 AM »
Mechanic hit the nail pretty squarely with his post, and not the redacted version re-posted by Skyrr.

It was not a HO shot, but had Nishi continued toward you I would pretty much guarantee you would have pulled the trigger anyway, it certainly looked as though you were setting up for one. :old:
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 11:45:48 AM »
Skyyrr, I think you air out your dirty laundry here on the board way too much.

Everything we do when we play, either makes the game better, or worse, including what we choose to post here on the boards.

In the future, refrain from these types of posts, please keep it to yourself or keep it within your squad, thank you <S>.
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 12:17:46 PM »
Really wish FA hadn't died; we wouldn't be dealing with this if that were the case.

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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2014, 01:50:40 PM »
Really wish FA hadn't died; we wouldn't be dealing with this if that were the case.
HOing and cheap shots were ALWAYS an issue in FA...what's so different here? Same type of people, same cheep shots.
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2014, 02:28:19 PM »
HOing and cheap shots were ALWAYS an issue in FA...what's so different here? Same type of people, same cheep shots.

No, I mean Skyyrr would still be in FA, and not posting these mild trolls here.

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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2014, 02:44:37 PM »
No, I mean Skyyrr would still be in FA, and not posting these mild trolls here.
Yeah....really. Amazing how one person can lower the bar so far.......
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2014, 03:38:01 PM »
Entirely the Ki84 pilots' fault I'd say. If I got shot this way, I'd definitely call it my own fault.

Truer words are rarely spoken.  Amazes me to this day how some blame the other guy for pulling the trigger when they make a mistake. Its the MA, not the DA.  If you feel like adhering to a code in the MA, fine.   Just don't bank on the other guy having the same viewpoint or whine when it turns out they don't. 

Take the shot if the other guy is dumb enough to give one to you.  Guess he will be more careful next time.  Or not.

 

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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2014, 04:19:47 PM »
Truer words are rarely spoken.  Amazes me to this day how some blame the other guy for pulling the trigger when they make a mistake. Its the MA, not the DA.  If you feel like adhering to a code in the MA, fine.   Just don't bank on the other guy having the same viewpoint or whine when it turns out they don't. 

Take the shot if the other guy is dumb enough to give one to you.  Guess he will be more careful next time.  Or not.

 


Yeah, it's definitely easier than actually earning a kill....
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Re: HO, front-quarter, or simply poor SA?
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2014, 04:54:18 PM »
I would much rather see the RAW AH film file instead of these youtube videos


All I can gather from the video is a FW190 flying along and pulls a lead turn toward a ki-84 shooting him broadside from his front right quarter cowling back........

I do not see anything else in the youtube video that identifies itself to anything other than exactly that.......

I do not see any reference of a Head On shot, nor do I see any reference of anything else, outside of what appears to be the FW190 breaking toward the Ki84 and shooting it, with out the ki84 ever so much as not even flinching until after it has been hit.... what might at first look to be absolute poor SA, but none of us actually know what was going on here, the ki84 flyer could have been afk, could have been helping tie their daughter's shoe, etc...

nothing is on the text buffer or on the in-game vox to help lead to more insight to this particular fight

It is much better to post up the actual in-game raw films that includes and shows everything that is going on

long before the fight developes, while he fight developes, during the fight, and then after the fight is over with.....

could we please see the raw film footage from the game?

I really do not see where anyone can give an actual educated theory or answer without such film to review


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