Tell me about the HE111

[Cthulhu]

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Even the Imperial Lighter seems to beat the He 111 in terms of survivability
In AH. the substantially better durability doesn't help much if you can't shoot back effectively.

You know, the scary part is that Lusche probably has tons of data on all of us somewhere in his spreadsheets. 

And the Germans were upset with us over the NSA?? Geez.

[Lusche]

You know, the scary part is that Lusche probably has tons of data on all of us somewhere in his spreadsheets. 

He has, but much less than you think

[Volron]

Depends

   Well the BoB Scenario doesn't count in this case as it's being implied MA usage.  Least this is how I read it.


Then again, very good escorts (which are far and few) will tend to keep them off us very well.  This was proven in the BoB scenario.

[Karnak]

Even the Imperial Lighter seems to beat the He 111 in terms of survivability

Which one has longer range?  I know the G4M1 climbs much better, is slightly faster and carries a smaller bombload.

[GScholz]

Which 111H variant is it anyway? a H-6? Does it have any 13mm MG131 options? MG 81Z?

[Lusche]

Which one has longer range?  I know the G4M1 climbs much better, is slightly faster and carries a smaller bombload.

I haven't tested it in detail (climbing with 100% to best alt, then determining range left). On the deck, the He 111 has 2.2 hours at ful mil and the G4M 2.1h, but considering the much better ROC and cruising speed the 100% G4M should beat a 100% He 111.
It's a different thing when the He 111 choses a small bomb load + drop tanks (endurance on deck 2.7h).

But that's mostly academical in AH, as both bombers are in my experience rarely used for long range missions.

Which 111H variant is it anyway? a H-6? Does it have any 13mm MG131 options? MG 81Z?

Seems like our 111 is a mix of different early H variants. The 'best' weapon set you can get is 20mm MG-FF in nose and forward gondola, single MG-15 in dorsal, left, right and rear gondola positions.

[GScholz]

So we basically have a BoB-era He 111H. A H-16 or H-20 would be appropriate for 1943 and 1944 eastern front. By then it was a 270 mph aircraft, similar to a B-25. Powered turret with 13mm MG131, flexible mount MG131 and MG81Z. Perhaps HTC can make a mid-late war version as well.

[Cthulhu]

So we basically have a BoB-era He 111H. A H-16 or H-20 would be appropriate for 1943 and 1944 eastern front. By then it was a 270 mph aircraft, similar to a B-25. Powered turret with 13mm MG131, flexible mount MG131 and MG81Z. Perhaps HTC can make a mid-late war version as well.

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Or... completely blow off the 111 and give us the Do-217 or even the He-177. HTC could even program in random engine fires. 

[GScholz]

We already have the 111, and the aircraft itself changed very little. Just better engines and guns.

[Cthulhu]

We already have the 111, and the aircraft itself changed very little. Just better engines and guns.

Exactly. It didn't change enough to make it worth flying in Late War. Give us the 217, or the 177. Or even the Ju-188 for that matter. They're far more suited to the Late War Arena than the 111.

[GScholz]

You're missing the point.

[GScholz]

What is the difference between a Spit I and a Spit16...

[Coalcat1]

What is the difference between a Spit I and a Spit16...

The spit 1 is better...             

[caldera]

What is the difference between a Spit I and a Spit16...

The Spit XVI is a Spit I that overdosed on steroids and consequently has very small nads.

[Serenity]

You're missing the point.

I agree. The He-111 is easily my new favorite non-heavy bomber. I freaking love this thing, mostly because it's absolutely beautiful, much more so than any of the other German level bombers.