Answer from HTC please.

[Lusche]

What if...

if you bomb and then bail without receiving any damage yourself you get no points for bomb hits.

Would change nothing. Bomb'n'Bailers are not interested in points. It's all about 'war efficiency'.
Furtheremore, you could always just rip your wings before bailing. Or simply ride it down.

[Oldman731]

In AH only "Glory" is reported via system messages........  which whilst being all very " positive" IMO also encourages dweebish game play.

So very true.

But hey....everyone's a winner!

- oldman

[guncrasher]

At the time of writing the player in question seems to have bailed 74 times from 93 sorties........

You are right of course...... This player obviously gets his kicks this way.

were you chasing him every single time?   I also have a lot of bails.   Hard to get that achievement without baling.



semp

[PJ_Godzilla]

See rule #7

[LLv34_Dictonius]

One solution might be some sort of delay: bailing from a perfectly good bomber would cause delay before one can take off again. But like charge mentioned, certain parameters are needed to avoid all bombers getting delay every time they bail or crash. Parameters like, there should be damage caused by another player or AI. Bailing or crashing a bomber without such damage would give 10 minutes of tower time (or more) to the player in general (so one can't roll M3 or ack Buster either).

But this of course might need some work and is somewhat far fetched too

/Edit. and of course, this might cause one more of those, "I can't bail from my bomber and play the game the way I want to so I quit my account and see you all" kinda threads...

[NatCigg]

One solution might be some sort of delay: bailing from a perfectly good bomber would cause delay before one can take off again. But like charge mentioned, certain parameters are needed to avoid all bombers getting delay every time they bail or crash. Parameters like, there should be damage caused by another player or AI. Bailing or crashing a bomber without such damage would give 10 minutes of tower time (or more) to the player in general (so one can't roll M3 or ack Buster either).

But this of course might need some work and is somewhat far fetched too

/Edit. and of course, this might cause one more of those, "I can't bail from my bomber and play the game the way I want to so I quit my account and see you all" kinda threads...

Now by parameters I hope you do not mean take a perfectly good game and screw it up in some poor attempt to make the loudest whiner feel better.  This game is awesome because a player can do what he wants when he wants how he wants.  Please do not turn it into some PC induced mediocrity.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

I had my first bail today ... I'm all emotional. Spoted a low goon trying to sneck in. Dove from 13K to chase him on the deck ... and 'poof'. No kill  Glad I blew all my alt, I still could hear him giggling after he augered.

[LLv34_Dictonius]

Now by parameters I hope you do not mean take a perfectly good game and screw it up in some poor attempt to make the loudest whiner feel better.  This game is awesome because a player can do what he wants when he wants how he wants.  Please do not turn it into some PC induced mediocrity.

My point exactly:

/Edit. and of course, this might cause one more of those, "I can't bail from my bomber and play the game the way I want to so I quit my account and see you all" kinda threads...

[ROC]

Shoot them down before they get to target.  If it's this big of a problem, put the effort into a solution that actually accomplishes something.  Bomb and Bailer problem solved, proxie kill issue resolved.

[Helm]

whats the difference between a bomber who bails from being caught by a fighter or a fighter who runs from a bomber ?
 or a fighter that runs from a fighter ?  in all cases its to escape being caught.

 or what about the guy who ups a 190 and porks ords/dar and ditches ?
 

 if you punish one you must punish the other




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well said!

Helm ...out

[guncrasher]

One solution might be some sort of delay: bailing from a perfectly good bomber would cause delay before one can take off again. But like charge mentioned, certain parameters are needed to avoid all bombers getting delay every time they bail or crash. Parameters like, there should be damage caused by another player or AI. Bailing or crashing a bomber without such damage would give 10 minutes of tower time (or more) to the player in general (so one can't roll M3 or ack Buster either).

But this of course might need some work and is somewhat far fetched too

/Edit. and of course, this might cause one more of those, "I can't bail from my bomber and play the game the way I want to so I quit my account and see you all" kinda threads...

I crashed the first 8 or 9 b29's that I ever attempted to use.  then again 2 or 3 years ago  I crashed another 8  out 9 because somebody dare me to take from off from a certain field.  just thursday, I lawndarted several 109e's as I would forget that you cant dive at more than 400mph.  also I was in my pony being chased after picking a couple of guys.  a 109 had speed and alt, was looking back waiting for him to get closer when I hit the water.  I hadnt been damaged.

I have also bailed out of many bombers because the cv was already destroyed or I made a mistake and took off from the wrong field.

why I should I be penalized for the above just to fix a non-existent problem.  yesterday I saw so many bombers that it was ridiculous.  and yet I didnt see a single bomber bail out.

some of us attacked the bombers, but there were others than refused to attack them even though they had speed and alt on them.  shouldnt this guys who didnt engaged also be penalized just like those in bombers who bail out for refusing to fight?  like you propose?

semp

[Sg11]

I think the bail proxy should be at least icon range (6k) for all aircraft.  :ao+1

[NatCigg]

I crashed the first 8 or 9 b29's that I ever attempted to use.  then again 2 or 3 years ago  I crashed another 8  out 9 because somebody dare me to take from off from a certain field.  just thursday, I lawndarted several 109e's as I would forget that you cant dive at more than 400mph.  also I was in my pony being chased after picking a couple of guys.  a 109 had speed and alt, was looking back waiting for him to get closer when I hit the water.  I hadnt been damaged.

I have also bailed out of many bombers because the cv was already destroyed or I made a mistake and took off from the wrong field.

why I should I be penalized for the above just to fix a non-existent problem.  yesterday I saw so many bombers that it was ridiculous.  and yet I didnt see a single bomber bail out.

some of us attacked the bombers, but there were others than refused to attack them even though they had speed and alt on them.  shouldnt this guys who didnt engaged also be penalized just like those in bombers who bail out for refusing to fight?  like you propose?

semp

these guys, refusing to attack bombers?  i guess i understand, it is similar to me not chasing a 190 or P-51.  It is very unfulfilling to be dragged around with the eventual gain being nothing and therefore a loss.

Like when that kinda dumb guy with a lot of power once said. "fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on...aaa....aaa...shame on ME"   

[Aspen]

I don't see many bailing, but I also don't chase bombers that much.  If a bomber bails before he drops to avoid getting shot down, I win.  If he bails after he drops to avoid getting shot down or to get back to fighting quicker, I don't really care.

I bail from fighters and gvs pretty often when theres nothing going on, to avoid a long RTB when the enemy is gone and it gets me to some other fight faster or my squad starts an op while I'm on climb out.

[Changeup]

See Rule #2