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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 10:06:12 AM »
pay $15 a month and have a good imagination
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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 10:12:00 AM »
pay $15 a month and have a good imagination

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Maybe the best answer yet.   :aok
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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 10:18:37 AM »
well said batfink!

also agree with Tikto's post


I need to also add that as of lately when I have been in the LWMA, it seems that most all fights I have encountered have actually been pretty fun, and I hardly at all had to fall back on using the ol' sucker them in thinking they got the upper hand stuff...

Everyone I encountered brought the fight! which was a welcomed change from my point of view!


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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2014, 10:21:12 AM »
pay $15 a month and have a good imagination

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2014, 10:24:22 AM »
There's great answers here that support the notion of very effective cartoon pilots, but are somewhat slanted to the mechanics of the fight.  Some aspects of the following were touched on but I'll call them out.

Honor
Respect
Sportsmanship
Sense of Humor
Responsibility
Teamwork

Add these ingredients to the rest and I think you will come up with a truly great cartoon pilot.  It's another angle on why they are rare.  In the real world you will find these characteristics in most great pilots.

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 10:36:03 AM »
Please post what your personal opinion of the qualities that distingish a great cartoon pilot from the average or simply good. 
A great AH pilot for me is;

someone that disregards score and rank.
someone that fly's the aircraft they enjoy, not the best performing.
someone that that dislikes flying with the horde.
someone that prefers to fight for themselves, living or dying by their own talents or mistakes.
someone that avoids the HO to allow a fight develop.
someone that, when called, will go into the DA with anyone.
someone that doesn't mock defeated opponents in or out of the game.
someone that gives advise freely without being condescending.
someone that will ask a friendly if help is needed before turning a 1v1 into a 2v1.
someone that has the determination to keep trying and not giving up.

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 10:41:57 AM »


But this assumes a defensive mindset to some degree.   Do you view that mindset as a requirement for the LWMA and if so why?

Now you have lost me.  If a pilot has a good grasp of ACM, flight model, strengths and weaknesses of each fighter in the planeset, etc....what difference should his plane choice make given the situation you propose?   They are all just variables the pilot is making judgements on based on his experience and ACM knowledge.  Shouldn't a pilot with the qualities you list be able to just take up any plane in the base defense situation and be equally successful?

1. For those people who don't always have to fly the fastest planes in the game, defense tactics are highly required and they are also highly effective. Running away to me is lame and boring. So I always attempt a defensive tactic that may be able to give me the advantage and a quick kill. Average sticks don't know these moves and either attempt to run away, or squerm on the deck until they get saved or ultimately shot down. It's hard to always be the fastest, always keep your alt, and always be able to run away, so learning these moves are crucial to stay alive if/when you get in a disadvantage. People who run when they have a con on their 6 miss out on kills and also don't get as many as they could have. It's very important. To learn these in the MA because you will not always have the advantage, especially if you fly slower planes.  

2. Yes the plane does matter.

If a base is being over taken by carrier planes, these are tight turning semi fast planes and they can all dive well except the a6m really. So I don't care who is taking off, if you up in a 47 or tiff or another sluggish plane in the midst of being over run by carrier planes you will hardly survive.  Just because someone has extensive experience in ACM and plane knowledge, they will still pretty much be flying defensivlely in this type of situation. So even though one may be able to turn a P47 slightly well. It is no match for a F4u diving on you while you are low on the deck trying to get speed. You simply just cannot out turn or runaway givin this position idk who you are. (Maybe get lucky on a overshoot pass shot but that's about it.)

Alright another situation.

I am on my way to a base where I know there are gonna be some high cons. I think I'm cool and take up a fm2. That would be a rather stupid choice of plane. Just like upping a P47 at a base that is being capped. So I get up to about 10K in my FM2 going roughly 260 let's say. Here come the 190Ds and p51s at 15K.  But I don't choose to engage them, so I see a lower plane below me and attempt to dive on them for the kill. Let's say I miss. Now either I go up to regain my E or I cut my E and continue to attack. Uhhh ohh here comes both the 190D and p51 on me. I still haven't killed the spit. So now I'm in a bad position because I can't run, and the only thing I can do is defensively get the BnZers to miss. Now you say well that's bad SA. But these planes were higher and faster to begin with. They could have caught you already. At this point you are already In a defensive position in a plane that cant extend. So you end up getting ganged 3 to 1. This is because of a poor plane choice that cant handle the consistsnt BnZ of the 190d and p51 and turn with the spit at the same time.  It doesn't matter how much you know or think you know about flying this plane and ACM because the plane simply cannot perform well enough to not get in this position. Once you start engaging enimies with this plane it is rather easy to get picked because it can't excel well and it's slow.

So those are 2 situations of choosing the wrong plane even if you think you are good because 95% of the time you will get shot down no matter how much ACM or SA you possess.





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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 10:54:34 AM »
Dolby nailed it.  Conversation over.
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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 11:05:46 AM »
1. For those people who don't always have to fly the fastest planes in the game, defense tactics are highly required and they are also highly effective.

Agreed except for the qualifier.  I think its pretty important for people who fly fast planes as well i.e. everyone ends up slow sometimes.


2. Yes the plane does matter.


I agree, of course. 

So if this is the case, does it follow that a pilot who is consistently effective in a plane that is not optimal for a given situation is more skilled than another pilot in the same scenario but flying a more inherently effective plane?

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2014, 11:05:50 AM »
Dolby nailed it.  Conversation over.


Agreed.

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2014, 11:17:20 AM »
Anyone who simply plays the game without incessant complaints about the way the other players are flying is great in my book, never mind the skills, what they fly, or how they fly it.
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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2014, 11:28:41 AM »
A great AH pilot for me is;

someone that disregards score and rank.
someone that fly's the aircraft they enjoy, not the best performing.
someone that that dislikes flying with the horde.
someone that prefers to fight for themselves, living or dying by their own talents or mistakes.
someone that avoids the HO to allow a fight develop.
someone that, when called, will go into the DA with anyone.
someone that doesn't mock defeated opponents in or out of the game.
someone that gives advise freely without being condescending.
someone that will ask a friendly if help is needed before turning a 1v1 into a 2v1.
someone that has the determination to keep trying and not giving up.


Very well said

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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2014, 11:43:55 AM »
 To me the answer is rather simple!


  A great AH pilot practices what he preaches!




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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2014, 11:47:39 AM »
Great pilots only fly the best plane for the job, always have friends to back them up and never start a fight they aren't sure to be able to escape from.  :)
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Re: The qualities of a great AH pilot
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2014, 11:50:01 AM »
A great pilot is any that will let me shoot them down without trying to defend themselves
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