Author Topic: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28  (Read 15623 times)

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #165 on: August 20, 2014, 08:52:02 PM »
A time limit (10-15 minutes?) after the merge. This would address concerns about "running" and running out of fuel. If the time limit is breached, the team with the most players still flying wins the round. If both teams have equal number of players up, its a draw and the plane choice rotates to the next team.

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #166 on: August 20, 2014, 09:01:43 PM »
You work for Coca-Cola?  :pray

Nope.  Game companies like to keep their nerds happy so we're productive nerds, so a lot subsidize goodies like sodas and snacks. 

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #167 on: August 20, 2014, 09:05:15 PM »
Dang, this started out as a pretty good thread. :aok Come back later and  :huh

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #168 on: August 20, 2014, 09:13:38 PM »
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This addresses forcing players into Turn / Stall fights if they don't want to do it (which we don't in a multiple vs multiple environment, its proven to be pretty effective so far ;).

25% Fuel in the LA isn't the same as 25% fuel in the 109. If the concern is time, then a time limit can be imposed, but forcing players to fight someone else's fight isn't neutral. IMHO. The point of the duel is to find out who is the better team (regardless of flight styles) right?

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #169 on: August 20, 2014, 09:39:43 PM »
This addresses forcing players into Turn / Stall fights if they don't want to do it (which we don't in a multiple vs multiple environment, its proven to be pretty effective so far ;).

25% Fuel in the LA isn't the same as 25% fuel in the 109. If the concern is time, then a time limit can be imposed, but forcing players to fight someone else's fight isn't neutral. IMHO. The point of the duel is to find out who is the better team (regardless of flight styles) right?

Care to add anything positive?

Picking the same fuel load out doesn't force someone to fight a certain way, it just levels the playing field by making things equal for both players.  Also, both sides don't have to agree to take 25% fuel, they are open to select any fuel load out they wish as long as both players use the same fuel load out.  If both sides want to take 50% or more fuel, that's fine.

What you and Skyyr want does not equal the playing field, it's that simple.

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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #170 on: August 20, 2014, 09:58:13 PM »
This addresses forcing players into Turn / Stall fights if they don't want to do it (which we don't in a multiple vs multiple environment, its proven to be pretty effective so far ;).

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  Oh man, you are SO funny. You'd be absolute comedy gold if you weren't saying this with a straight face.


25% Fuel in the LA isn't the same as 25% fuel in the 109. If the concern is time, then a time limit can be imposed, but forcing players to fight someone else's fight isn't neutral. IMHO. The point of the duel is to find out who is the better team (regardless of flight styles) right?

Care to add anything positive?


Come off it Kruel. Let's at least be honest shall we. Your 'tactical fuel load' is simply another advantage you're trying to secure so you can ensure your life is full of 'win'. A perfect escape clause if you find yourself outmatched. You realize you can't defeat the Muppets et al 'kills through skills' faction dueling 1 on 1. Then (perhaps by accident) you've discovered 2 vs 2 is to your advantage since you have more experience at that and the faction mentioned doesn't really much bother with it (or is perhaps just starting too since it seems they can actually get a fight this way).

I really don't know why you're misrepresenting this point. You've already made it clear you only care about results regardless of method and that you believe in securing every advantage possible before every engagement. Why start misrepresenting your agenda now?

AH tradition is any form of competition is specified and identical fuel load. Good luck trying to change that. I think you're going to find no one will agree to waste time with you and in the meantime a new 2 v 2 dueling league might actually commence.




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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #171 on: August 20, 2014, 10:09:33 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  Oh man, you are SO funny. You'd be absolute comedy gold if you weren't saying this with a straight face.



Come off it Kruel. Let's at least be honest shall we. Your 'tactical fuel load' is simply another advantage you're trying to secure so you can ensure your life is full of 'win'. A perfect escape clause if you find yourself outmatched. You realize you can't defeat the Muppets et al 'kills through skills' faction dueling 1 on 1. Then (perhaps by accident) you've discovered 2 vs 2 is to your advantage since you have more experience at that and the faction mentioned doesn't really much bother with it (or is perhaps just starting too since it seems they can actually get a fight this way).

I really don't know why you're misrepresenting this point. You've already made it clear you only care about results regardless of method and that you believe in securing every advantage possible before every engagement. Why start misrepresenting your agenda now?

AH tradition is any form of competition is specified and identical fuel load. Good luck trying to change that. I think you're going to find no one will agree to waste time with you and in the meantime a new 2 v 2 dueling league might actually commence.






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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #172 on: August 20, 2014, 10:24:28 PM »
Oh come on 'Shida.  There is a "New Sheriff In Town" didn't you get the memo?    Get with the program slacker.  /sarcasm

Oh man, I haven't laughed so hard in ages. Tactical fuel load  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl ouch, I think I broke something


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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #173 on: August 20, 2014, 10:45:24 PM »
A time limit?  Really?  I'd have to dig out my super secret junior decoder/timer connected to my Chinese built AH sun blinder hack to flash in my eyes to let me know when the fight was over.  Not just anyone can afford the box of cracker jacks that comes in.

Seriously, even the I-16 with probably the shortest legs in the planeset at 25% internal has enough fuel to last through nearly any one on one.  If you can't kill your opponent(s) before burning through a quarter tank of fuel you probably don't deserve to win.

That said the only way to police fuel settings other than allowing for pilot choice is to review film and we all know how providing film goes sometimes.
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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #174 on: August 20, 2014, 10:59:37 PM »
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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #175 on: August 20, 2014, 11:00:36 PM »
If you can't kill your opponent(s) before burning through a quarter tank of fuel you probably don't deserve to win..

Guess that settles it for ChangeUp then. If the proposed rules were in place maybe he wouldn't have had that problem. Its 2v2, its going to last longer than a 1v1. Specially if you don't fly it like its a 1v1 / 1v1 if you use Wingman Tactics you give up a shot to clear your wingman.
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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #176 on: August 20, 2014, 11:07:44 PM »
Kruel is trolling, common sense is taking the same load out for everyone....for fairness/equal playing field.

If he isn't trolling, well then that explains a lot.
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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #177 on: August 20, 2014, 11:09:13 PM »
Kruel is DUCKING/HEDGING, common sense is taking the same load out for everyone....for fairness/equal playing field.

If he isn't DUCKING/HEDGING, well then that explains a lot.


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Re: AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28
« Reply #178 on: August 20, 2014, 11:13:37 PM »
Kruel is trolling, common sense is taking the same load out for everyone....for fairness/equal playing field.

If he isn't trolling, well then that explains a lot.


No sir, I am not. People seem to be trying to apply the same rules from a 1v1 to a 2v2..it doesn't work.

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« Reply #179 on: August 20, 2014, 11:17:20 PM »
No sir, I am not. People seem to be trying to apply the same rules from a 1v1 to a 2v2..it doesn't work.

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