Airspace violation by Russia.

[zack1234]

What about BP?

[Motherland]

What about BP?

You know, that company with a Swedish chairperson and American CEO that used to be called British Petroleum so is forever more inherently British.

[Masherbrum]

You know, that company with a Swedish chairperson and American CEO that used to be called British Petroleum so is forever more inherently British.

Not to mention that they are headquartered in London.....

[Slash27]

So are you saying that Mexico has 50 times larger military than the US and you see it as a pressuring force to your country? Or how can you even begin to compare these two incidents? 

Did anyone else come to this conclusion from what I said?

A brief explanation of my quip is there has been  multiple incursions by the Mexican military on both the ground and in the air that go unchecked. A Mexican military helicopter fired on Border patrol agents a week or so ago. They were kind enough to land and apologize however. So nothing on our southern border would surprise me at this point.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Did anyone else come to this conclusion from what I said?

A brief explanation of my quip is there has been  multiple incursions by the Mexican military on both the ground and in the air that go unchecked. A Mexican military helicopter fired on Border patrol agents a week or so ago. They were kind enough to land and apologize however. So nothing on our southern border would surprise me at this point.

Yeah well the Russian activity is state mandated and malicious. No accidents there.

[zack1234]

Not to mention that they are headquartered in London.....

An the point of this is?.

[GScholz]

Yeah well the Russian activity is state mandated and malicious. No accidents there.

It may be unusual for you guys living in a neutral country, but it is business as usual for us NATO guys. Here in Norway we average about 400 interceptions a year of Russian aircraft. And most of them are not unarmed transports.

[Slash27]

Yeah well the Russian activity is state mandated and malicious. No accidents there.

Did I say  it wasn't? And what makes you think the Mexican incursions aren't?

[Wmaker]

It may be unusual for you guys living in a neutral country, but it is business as usual for us NATO guys. Here in Norway we average about 400 interceptions a year of Russian aircraft. And most of them are not unarmed transports.

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Russians do not violate NATO airspace like they do on countries which not in NATO. NATO scrambles fighters to recognize Russian military aircraft when they are flying close to the airspace border.

Completely and totally apples to oranges.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

they dont sell  drugs in finland?  really?


semp

The drug cartels don't rule here, really.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Did I say  it wasn't? And what makes you think the Mexican incursions aren't?

I don't know about your country but in my society landing and apologising indicates some sort of accidental activity. 

[GScholz]

Russians do not violate NATO airspace like they do on countries which not in NATO. NATO scrambles fighters to recognize Russian military aircraft when they are flying close to the airspace border.

Completely and totally apples to oranges.

When and if we are late they don't stop at the border. They fly up and down our coast just outside the border, but if they think they can get away with it they make a dash for a city or airbase. Tromsø, Andøya and Bodø are typical "targets". In the '90s we were terribly late one day and a Russian bomber managed to overfly Tromsø before being intercepted. That was not a good day to be the chief of the RNoAF...

[nrshida]

When and if we are late they don't stop at the border. They fly up and down our coast just outside the border, but if they think they can get away with it they make a dash for a city or airbase. Tromsø, Andøya and Bodø are typical "targets". In the '90s we were terribly late one day and a Russian bomber managed to overfly Tromsø before being intercepted. That was not a good day to be the chief of the RNoAF...

Well, when you get your F-35s you can repay the visit 

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Well, when you get your F-35s you can repay the visit 

Then they could test if SAMs find the F35 or not. Russians shoot first, ask questions later.

[Slash27]

I don't know about your country but in my society landing and apologising indicates some sort of accidental activity. 

Maybe apologies work in your country when you fire on law enforcement of another country on their side of the border. Come to think of it, we just pretend nothings wrong so I guess it really doesn't matter. The apology was a nice touch though. Usually they just shoot and return to Mexico after covering another cartel run.