Airspace violation by Russia.

[GScholz]

Then they could test if SAMs find the F35 or not. Russians shoot first, ask questions later.

That hasn't been true since the fall of the Soviet Union.

[GScholz]

The Russians fly down our coast and sometimes far enough to be intercepted by Danish or British fighters...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCoxCVWiLYE

[MrRiplEy[H]]

That hasn't been true since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Are you sure? Putler is doing his best to return the 'old glory' of the dark ages. And the population in Russia are just loving it.

[GScholz]

I didn't say it couldn't become true again in the future.

[cpxxx]

I live in a so called 'neutral' country and no one dares violate our airspace otherwise we would send one of these after them:



They would flee in terror!

[nrshida]

No country on this planet is an island 

[Arlo]

No country on this planet is an island 

Japan.

[nrshida]

Japan.

[zack1234]

Are you sure? Putler is doing his best to return the 'old glory' of the dark ages. And the population in Russia are just loving it.

Bit like Europe with its right wing nationalist political parties

[Puma44]

I don't know about your country but in my society landing and apologising indicates some sort of accidental activity. 

Or it might have been because they were caught in the act had a tinge of guilt.

[Wmaker]

When and if we are late they don't stop at the border. They fly up and down our coast just outside the border, but if they think they can get away with it they make a dash for a city or airbase. Tromsø, Andøya and Bodø are typical "targets". In the '90s we were terribly late one day and a Russian bomber managed to overfly Tromsø before being intercepted. That was not a good day to be the chief of the RNoAF...

When talking about the recent times, the above is true about as much as RNoAF doing 400 intercepts a year...

[GScholz]

During the Cold War we had scrambles on average twice a day against Soviet aircraft. Now we're down to half that, but most are just flying down our coast just outside our border. In 1012 there were 71 interceptions of Russian aircraft attempting to breach our airspace and had to be diverted.None made it though. Around 2000 things were very quiet, but after 2006 Russian activity in the Norwegian Sea increased significantly.

And that makes me wonder what was your air force doing? Don't you guys intercept and ID all unknown and foreign military aircraft close to your border? Where was the Ilmavoimat when this An-72 breached your airspace?

[GScholz]

Heh... Just now two F-16s took off, afterburners lit, and headed out to sea. I live a few hundred meters from the airbase here in Bodø. 

[Wmaker]

During the Cold War we had scrambles on average twice a day against Soviet aircraft. Now we're down to half that, but most are just flying down our coast just outside our border. In 1012 there were 71 interceptions of Russian aircraft attempting to breach our airspace and had to be diverted.None made it though. Around 2000 things were very quiet, but after 2006 Russian activity in the Norwegian Sea increased significantly.

I don't see any reason to believe a word you are saying here except that the activity picked up after mid-2000s, the numbers you are stating are so ridiculous.

"Russian strategic bombers had 10 missions to the northwest during 2010, compared with 12 such missions in both 2009 and 2008.

In all, Norwegian F-16 fighter jets were scrambled 36 times from Bodø airbase in Northern Norway last year to identify Russian military aircrafts. In all 37 such Russian aircrafts were identified on missions outside Norwegian airspace in the north last year, shows the figures given to BarentsObserver by the Norwegian Joint Headquarters.

- There is a decline in the number of identified aircraft, but the number of scramble is about the same, says Lieutenant Colonel John Espen Lien, spokesman with the Joint Headquarters.  - We have also seen that the number of aircraft on the so-called western flights (west of 30 degrees East) is lower than last year. This is due to several factors - both the change in the patterns of the missions, but also change in the base structure in Russia, explains Lien."

http://barentsobserver.com/en/sections/security/less-russian-military-aircrafts-vicinity-norwegian-airspace

And that makes me wonder what was your air force doing?

As unfortunate as it is, I must admit that I don't own an air force.

Where was the Ilmavoimat when this An-72 breached your airspace?

Who do you think took that pic I linked to this thread?

[GScholz]

I don't see any reason to believe a word you are saying here except that the activity picked up after mid-2000s, the numbers you are stating are so ridiculous.

Well, Foxtrot Uniform to you too I guess.  What do I know, I just live here.