Protocol For Taking a Shot

[Slade]

Hey all,

In a recent outing with new and veteran pilots alike we were taking a base.  In a few instances I was in the best position to take a shot on an enemy plane.  I tried the following on vox:

• Lining up on Spit.
• Dropping in on the LA.

etc.  

Each time though a friendly player flew in front of me and took the shot (both times without any announcement).  This is not a whine.  I am asking, is there a specific protocol or verbiage one must use in such instances to announce you are making a run on an enemy plane?

If this was a singular event no biggie.  Happens more often than not though that is why I am posting.

Thanks,

Slade  

[deadstikmac]

The only one I have ever know of is:

When I come up on a 1 vs 1 I will most of the time ask my countrymen if he wants or needs help. If I do not get an answer within a few seconds up too a minute or so I will just presumably jump in. The lack of vox too me means everything this guy has got is in the fight.




Sometimes when I see a 2 vs 1 or even a 3 vs 1..... I ask if they want help. For me unless I have 5 or more fighting myself I will wave off players until I die. But I look too put myself into a bad position that way.

[Zerstorer]

^ this.

[The Fugitive]

Hey all,

In a recent outing with new and veteran pilots alike we were taking a base.  In a few instances I was in the best position to take a shot on an enemy plane.  I tried the following on vox:

• Lining up on Spit.
• Dropping in on the LA.

etc.  

Each time though a friendly player flew in front of me and took the shot (both times without any announcement).  This is not a whine.  I am asking, is there a specific protocol or verbiage one must use in such instances to announce you are making a run on an enemy plane?

If this was a singular event no biggie.  Happens more often than not though that is why I am posting.

Thanks,

Slade  

In most cases if you see me in a multi plane fight (gang) it's because I was the first one in and I just take so long knocking enough parts off that others join into help.

For 1 vs 1 I ask most times if they want help, if it's already 2 or 3 on 1 I go look for another fight. I WILL let people know as Im coming by them so they KNOW I'm there like, "coming by on your right, I'll get him to turn". If it is an instance where I'm getting all kinds of help   I pay VERY close attention to were the others are so I don't kill shoot myself. I don't count on the other letting me know they are there. I fly with my brother in law often and he is FINALLY getting good at letting me know when he is going to blast by in his pony.

[DmonSlyr]

If is you with 13 friendlies and 1 bad guy chances are they will all gang the guy because they are desperate for the kill. So it won't really matter if you attempt to call others off. If you are in a 1v1,try to tell people by using vox or purple text yo call them off. I rarely jump into peopels 1V1 fights unless I have to.

More than likely someone will always try to "help" you, which kinda sucks sometimes cause you don't really need it.

I always tell my country men to not kill the guy I'm fighing but the pickers who are trying to ruin my fight.  But if my teamates go for my kill and then let the pickerrs keep on flying around us, then that is poor flying for us. There are a lot of chances to get kills on planes that are picking 1v1 fights. So don't just go for the EZ kill in which your teammate already has em in his sites. 

The answer is no though Slade. There is no protocol, the best you can do is simply try to call the others off, but most people don't give to craps and will still steal your kill from your 12.

[Lusche]

If is you with 13 friendlies and 1 bad guy chances are they will all gang the guy because they are desperate for the kill.

And even if there's a full sector darbar next sector indicating that something *big* is coming in, they will still all dive down to the deck for that single con... or follow that last remaining smoking Lancaster out of the sector 

[thndregg]

First.. I am p!ss-poor in a fighter...

Nevertheless, I'm not that desperate to get a kill. Could care less whether I get it or just assist. Sometimes I would just play "bait" to help the other guy knock down the opponent. If I can help a fellow "countryman" get his kill, I'm just as gratified I helped out.

There have been times I've jumped in at the request of a fellow player, and while he may have his opponent in his sights, taken parts off the guy, and yet I end up with the "Kill" message.. it doesn't seem right.

Sportsmanship matters regardless of the game being played, whether you're sitting at the same table or on different continents.

[bozon]

In a furball there are no rules. Never trust a greenie to finish an enemy off, so take it out of the fight yourself if you get the chance. If not, this enemy will turn into you and shoot you down with the useless greenie still on his tail.

If you come across two planes having a go at each other 1 on 1 and do not risk you - ask on range before jumping in. No answer = an approval.

[Lusche]

If you come across two planes having a go at each other 1 on 1 and do not risk you - ask on range before jumping in. No answer = an approval.

Even when you don't get an answer from me, you might take second to judge the situation. No answer doesn't mean you have to clear my 12, just because I couldn't get my hands off the HOTAS to type on country channel

Oh, and it's not that rare that I simply don't understand what folks are talking ... not many here use the Queens English I learned in school...  

[Hap]

I am asking, is there a specific protocol or verbiage one must use in such instances to announce you are making a run on an enemy plane?

Flying with guys you know well helps.  And I know that cannot be arranged always.  Our squad helps each other much like you do telling pilots whom you're lining up upon.  And, clearing each others' six, and setting up cons as well.

[DmonSlyr]

Even when you don't get an answer from me, you might take second to judge the situation. No answer doesn't mean you have to clear my 12, just because I couldn't get my hands off the HOTAS to type on country channel

Oh, and it's not that rare that I simply don't understand what folks are talking ... not many here use the Queens English I learned in school...  

Yeah, just because I don't answer doesn't mean I want you to come pick the dude  I'm about to defeat 1v1. Even if it looks like I'm losing. I will die with honor. just kill the pickers!!!

[Kodiak]

If is you with 13 friendlies and 1 bad guy chances are they will all gang the guy because they are desperate for the kill.

^ This...

and with numbers down in the MA I think this is more the rule now than the exception in most circumstances.

[Zerstorer]

Ask on range if your countryman needs help is the courteous way to go...of course, some pilots take that as an insult so your damned if you do or don't (no pun intended).

I've personally had my 12 cleared way too many times to count over the past month...far more than usual.   In one case I heard a "Sorry...I didn't see you on him" afterwards on range vox. 

Guess being 200 off the red guy's six obscured me from his view. 

You just have to take 12 clears in stride...

[DREDIOCK]

The only one I have ever know of is:

When I come up on a 1 vs 1 I will most of the time ask my countrymen if he wants or needs help. If I do not get an answer within a few seconds up too a minute or so I will just presumably jump in. The lack of vox too me means everything this guy has got is in the fight.

This

[DREDIOCK]

And even if there's a full sector darbar next sector indicating that something *big* is coming in, they will still all dive down to the deck for that single con... or follow that last remaining smoking Lancaster out of the sector 

Absolutely!

Its one of the tactics I use when we are being attacked. Folk here are as predictable as the sunrise.

Go to enemy base. Swoop down on a few and knock off as many as I can before like a school of fish they all start coming after me. Then its stay alive as long as possible. Usually by the time I've died. My base has started to recover through attrition and everyone who should be headed back to my base chasing after me instead. Keep 5 or 6 busy for a couple of minutes and it can make a big difference