HQ Downtime should be tied to 25% fuel reduction - Reasons Why

[Bruv119]

        #3 with each base having it's own radar, HQ being down should not effect local dar, only sector dar bars. and out of dar circle friendly cons.

I was going to suggest something like this makes more sense.   Enemy / friendly contacts should still show within radar rings that are active.

Another idea HQ goes down - (once toughened to 200k damage) that country loses all radio chat priveleges, that would be really eerie silence!!   

[Chilli]

#3 with each base having it's own radar, HQ being down should not effect local dar, only sector dar bars. and out of dar circle friendly cons.

I am sure that HTC COULD spend time coding and possibly game resources updating whether or not a friendly dot is within each and every players dar range 

I believe it would be much simpler to attach it to fuel reduction as I originally proposed or some other combination as seen fit <- Making this reason #6 so far

What is this fascination with denying an entire country radar anyhow?  I don't get it.... (only purpose is to cause GRIEF, and currently it has such a negative impact on finding ONLINE ACTION that is important to healthy main arena numbers).

[Arlo]

Doesn't hitting the refinery affect fuel already? HQ damage should affect AHII satellite GPS. And bothels. 

[Chilli]

Actually Arlo, you are incorrect in that assumption.  Hitting Refinery, only prolongs the down time of the fuel tanks on each base.  Destroying all of the fuel tanks on a base, only removes the options for drop tanks for the base that the fuel tanks are taken down.  Fuel percentage has not gone below 100% in the main arena since prior to the release of AH2 if I recall correctly.

Taking fuel percentage down to 75% for an entire country will be a significant ding, worthy of the dangers and time invested in attacking the structure.  It however, will NOT hamper any attempt by any country for finding action, although they might have a slightly more complicated journey to engage (not too unlike ENY).

[Lusche]

Actually Arlo, you are incorrect in that assumption.  Hitting Refinery, only prolongs the down time of the fuel tanks on each base.  Destroying all of the fuel tanks on a base, only removes the options for drop tanks for the base that the fuel tanks are taken down.  Fuel percentage has not gone below 100% in the main arena since prior to the release of AH2 if I recall correctly.

You don't 


Maximal fuel reduction on bases is down to 75%

[LilMak]

Ya know what Dale. You need to fix this HQ radar crap. You are really making the core playerbase mad with this. They are leaving because what few fights there are left to be had can't be found. There are more bases on a map than players and HT continually seems to find new and interesting ways for players to avoid any kind of air combat whatsoever (88s, 5", no radar).

[Chilli]

You don't 


Maximal fuel reduction on bases is down to 75%

That might explain some problems that I have been having with error on loading missions, "plane 1 has incorrect loadout" or something like that. 

When does the 75% take effect?  I could have sworn to be attempting to lift from a fuel deprived field and only drop tanks were disabled......... 

[bozon]

What is this fascination with denying an entire country radar anyhow?  I don't get it.... (only purpose is to cause GRIEF, and currently it has such a negative impact on finding ONLINE ACTION that is important to healthy main arena numbers).

There! someone said it out loud: "GRIEF".

That is the only incentive to fly HQ raids. It is not even strategy - those that play the strategy game know to hit the city and the AAA/ammo/radar factories, not HQ. I dont recall any case in which the destruction of HQ was followed by the opposing country rolling over our bases. I bet 90% of the players on the other countries do not even know that our HQ is down. In almost all cases, once HQ is finally back up after 30 minutes or so (with resupply) the strategic situation is exactly as it was when HQ went down.

Score? HQ raids are not good for score.
Perks? HQ raids are poor fields for perk farming.
Challenge? if you want challenge you do not fly at 30k. NOE, maybe.
Role playing? right... and bail out after bombing.
Strategy? worthless, see above.
After eliminating all other possibilities, what ever is left must be the truth - grief. The #1 motivational reason in MMO's.

[Lusche]

That might explain some problems that I have been having with error on loading missions, "plane 1 has incorrect loadout" or something like that.  

When does the 75% take effect?  I could have sworn to be attempting to lift from a fuel deprived field and only drop tanks were disabled.........  

Destroy half of the fuel tanks on a base = Fuel at 100% (No DT's)
Destroy all fuel tanks on a base = Fuel at 75%

A small airfield and a vehicle base have 4 fuel tanks, a medium airfield and a port have 6, a large airfield has has 8 fuel tanks.

[Slate]

   Why did the war planners not at least have a radar tower at their headquarters? 

[Lusche]

   Why did the war planners not at least have a radar tower at their headquarters? 

Makes one wonder indeed, but I dare to guess that wouldn't change things much either.

[Zoney]

When you are confronted with a Troll on the boards, I think the worst thing you can do is respond in any way to them because that is what feeds them.  if that is true, complaining about the HQ killers as griefers will surely feed them exactly what the wish to devour.  You are giving them exactly what they want by complaining and they will therefore win and continue to drop HQ because they live on your hate.

[Slate]

When you are confronted with a Troll on the boards, I think the worst thing you can do is respond in any way to them because that is what feeds them.  if that is true, complaining about the HQ killers as griefers will surely feed them exactly what the wish to devour.  You are giving them exactly what they want by complaining and they will therefore win and continue to drop HQ because they live on your hate.

   Yes Yes I can sense the hate.

[caldera]

When you are confronted with a Troll on the boards, I think the worst thing you can do is respond in any way to them because that is what feeds them.  if that is true, complaining about the HQ killers as griefers will surely feed them exactly what the wish to devour.  You are giving them exactly what they want by complaining and they will therefore win and continue to drop HQ because they live on your hate.

People are more likely to voice their opinion here, than send an e-mail to HTC.  Especially, once they see that others share their dissatisfaction.  If nobody complains outside of the game, do you really believe the griefers will stop?

[pembquist]

Now hang on just a second. Sure there are childish griefers who cackle imagining people getting POed by their behavior but I don't think that is the universal reason for attacking HQ. I remember bombing HQ a few times before the new strat system and I wasn't doing it out of malice. If anything, I wouldn't do it today because I see how annoying it is. The attraction of hitting HQ is that it is one of the few things you can do with a bomber by yourself that is challenging and has a big win/fail payoff. The only similar thing I can think of is sinking a cv. Only one non perk bomber can do it and it takes all its ords, it has an appeal that maybe not everyone understands but that is real. However, It is, as people keep saying, unbalanced or broken.