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Offline zack1234

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Cannons
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:32:29 AM »
Why did colonial planes not have cannons?.
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 01:38:46 AM »

Offline SirNuke

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Re: Cannons
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 01:40:20 AM »
Because

A) their tests kinda showed 50cal was the best for their usage
B) they didn't have a decent cannon design
C) It's more practical to keep supply of a singe ammo type

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Re: Cannons
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 01:47:32 AM »
The M2 Browning was as reliable as it gets and American pilots also liked have the extra ammunition. We didn't really have to deal with large strategic type bombers so there really was never a need for a harder hitting gun package.

Early Hispanos were prone to frequent jamming, especially the licensed built American versions(big reason the F4U-1C was not popular in reality)
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 02:07:48 AM »
.50BMG has fantastic ballistics and was more than adequate to down any German or Japanese airplane.

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Re: Cannons
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 03:14:55 AM »
I believe the last time the Americans traded cannon fire with the Redcoats, ours were bigger  :neener:

Although they may have been lent to us by Napoleon, don't recall exactly.
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 10:38:00 AM »
Ah, a P-51 with four 20 mm's. A pickers dream.


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Re: Cannons
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 10:56:21 AM »
The common belief that the US found the .50 adequate and didn't bother with cannons is completely wrong. Even pre-war the USAAF wanted cannon armed planes; the P-38 and P-39 were both designed with cannon armament. However, the Americans had real problems making their cannons work properly. The Oldsmobile cannon in the P-39 often could only get a shot or two off before jamming, and the US 20 mm Hispano development was a complete debacle of incompetence, institutional bickering and Anglophobia. So when war came the USAAF had to resign any hopes of cannon armed fighters and focus on the only reliable gun they had: The Browning M2. It was overweight (weighed almost as much as a 20 mm MG 151), but it was reliable and packed a good punch for the size of its round.
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 10:57:40 AM »
I believe the last time the Americans traded cannon fire with the Redcoats, ours were bigger  :neener:

Although they may have been lent to us by Napoleon, don't recall exactly.

The last time Americans traded cannon fire with the Redcoats was during the war of 1812...
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014, 12:16:46 PM »
The last time Americans traded cannon fire with the Redcoats was during the war of 1812...


We used alligators in that one.

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Re: Cannons
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 12:36:35 PM »






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Re: Cannons
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 12:39:04 PM »
Because

A) their tests kinda showed 50cal was the best for their usage
B) they didn't have a decent cannon design
C) It's more practical to keep supply of a singe ammo type


Septics hate single ammo types, they prefer a mix of .50, .30-06, .30 carbine 7.62mm, 9mm, .45ACP, 5.56, 10mm, .38 special, and more recently obscure rounds like 6.8mm. I'm surprised they didn't go for the H+K G11 to add some wierd caseless rounds to the supply chain too :headscratch:
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014, 12:39:48 PM »

We used alligators in that one.

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Re: Cannons
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2014, 01:06:23 PM »
We invented radar :old:
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Re: Cannons
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2014, 01:15:56 PM »
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