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Offline rogwar

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Re: Fury
« Reply #135 on: November 04, 2014, 11:28:39 AM »

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Re: Fury
« Reply #136 on: November 04, 2014, 11:34:41 AM »
It's certainly funnier than Fury  :cheers:
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Re: Fury
« Reply #137 on: November 04, 2014, 12:33:07 PM »
As for showing the horrors of war with a tank-crew as the main setting, Fury doesn't hold a candle to "The Beast".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWbp5hxzXTo
The best tank battle film to date in my opinion is the 1955 Czechoslovak film "Tank Brigade". It depicts the Battle of the Dukla Pass in September–October 1944. It also sort of follows a tank crew, but not nearly as intimate as in Fury. There's plenty of theatrics in this film as well, but hardly as silly and overdone as that ludicrous last battle in Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwxUZwUz7Y

And yes, those are real T-34s and real Pz. IVs and real StuG IIIs, real 109s and even a real Panther. And it's filmed at the real locations of the historical battle...

LOL!!! Really?

The first was clips of all the "high points/battle" all it was is a bunch of extras running around with a bunch of long shots of tanks on parade. The second was even worst, it looked like a "Rambo" wanna be!

Again, Fury wasn't a documentary....which is where you seem to have the problem with "authenticity/realism". It was just a war movie made for entertainment value. At 60 million plus so far it seems people were entertained.

We get it, you didn't like it, it wasn't what you expected/wanted, but it is what it is.

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Re: Fury
« Reply #138 on: November 04, 2014, 01:19:30 PM »
LOL!!! Really?

The first was clips of all the "high points/battle" all it was is a bunch of extras running around ...

... Or 3000 regulars of the Czechoslovakian army used in the making of that film. Those tanks are driven and commanded by real soldiers, not actors.


The second was even worst, it looked like a "Rambo" wanna be!

Why don't you see the film and THEN comment on it. You know, like a sensible person would.
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Re: Fury
« Reply #139 on: November 08, 2014, 10:36:09 PM »
From all over the world...

Comments like "I'm not a Brad Pitt fan, he is a horrible actor and I never enjoyed any of his movies" and "Brad is a brutal actor" are either from boobs or clueless dolts who haven't seen movies such as 12 Monkeys, True Romance, or Fight Club.  ;)

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Re: Fury
« Reply #140 on: November 08, 2014, 10:56:41 PM »
The best tank battle film to date in my opinion is the 1955 Czechoslovak film "Tank Brigade". It depicts the Battle of the Dukla Pass in September–October 1944. It also sort of follows a tank crew, but not nearly as intimate as in Fury. There's plenty of theatrics in this film as well, but hardly as silly and overdone as that ludicrous last battle in Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwxUZwUz7Y

And yes, those are real T-34s and real Pz. IVs and real StuG IIIs, real 109s and even a real Panther. And it's filmed at the real locations of the historical battle...

Wow!  That is amazing!  I'll see if I can find out how to get it.

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Re: Fury
« Reply #141 on: November 08, 2014, 10:59:24 PM »
As for showing the horrors of war with a tank-crew as the main setting, Fury doesn't hold a candle to "The Beast".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWbp5hxzXTo

That is a great movie.  I was going to mention it, but you beat me to it.  :aok

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Re: Fury
« Reply #142 on: November 08, 2014, 11:19:36 PM »
I just got back from seeing Fury.

I was glad to see it.  There are parts I liked and parts I didn't think were done so well, but I'm glad that they made it, and I hope that it does well.  If movies like this don't make money, the odds of really great war movies being made goes down.  I think that it was a labor of love.  For me, it is not as good as great war movies (like 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, 12 O'clock High, A Bridge Too Far, Das Boot, Midway, Saving Private Ryan) but a lot better than bad war movies (like Pearl Harbor and U-571).

Things I liked:  the tanks (of course, especially the Tiger), that they made it clear to the audience how vulnerable Shermans were, that they had some scenes out of tank-warfare stories I've read, that they put in a fight with several Shermans vs. a Tiger where the Tiger killed all but one, and the one only succeeded by getting around the Tiger to shoot it other than in the front and from close range.

Things I didn't like:  the overly creepy characters, the cliché aspects of plot and characterization, too many instances of Shermans taking a hit and not catching fire, that tanks were missing too many shots in a row at close range, that the Tiger battle was not pulled off as well as it could have been, that burning tanks didn't light off violently enough, the whole one tank vs. 200-300 guys battle.

The things I liked are where they did research and tried at least to put them in.  The things I didn't like were Hollywoodisms, which I expect in most movies.  Only a rare handful of movies avoid getting polluted by Hollywoodisms, so I am at least a little tolerant there.

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Re: Fury
« Reply #143 on: November 08, 2014, 11:36:58 PM »
We can at least be thankful that it isn't a Bollywood film. If it was, the Fury and Tiger crews would have had a dance-off in the middle of the fight...
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Re: Fury
« Reply #144 on: November 08, 2014, 11:51:14 PM »
Wow!  That is amazing!  I'll see if I can find out how to get it.

I just ordered it from a seller on eBay.

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Re: Fury
« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2014, 12:03:52 AM »
Hopefully you got the DVD with English subtitles!


http://www.panorama.sk/en/dvd/tank-brigade/1928
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Re: Fury
« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2014, 02:01:55 AM »
Hopefully you got the DVD with English subtitles!


http://www.panorama.sk/en/dvd/tank-brigade/1928

It said it had English subtitles.  Here's hoping the description is correct. :)

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Re: Fury
« Reply #147 on: November 09, 2014, 02:28:20 AM »
They make movies to make money
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Re: Fury
« Reply #148 on: November 09, 2014, 10:15:24 AM »
I just got back from seeing Fury.

I was glad to see it.  There are parts I liked and parts I didn't think were done so well, but I'm glad that they made it, and I hope that it does well.  If movies like this don't make money, the odds of really great war movies being made goes down.  I think that it was a labor of love.  For me, it is not as good as great war movies (like 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, 12 O'clock High, A Bridge Too Far, Das Boot, Midway, Saving Private Ryan) but a lot better than bad war movies (like Pearl Harbor and U-571).

Things I liked:  the tanks (of course, especially the Tiger), that they made it clear to the audience how vulnerable Shermans were, that they had some scenes out of tank-warfare stories I've read, that they put in a fight with several Shermans vs. a Tiger where the Tiger killed all but one, and the one only succeeded by getting around the Tiger to shoot it other than in the front and from close range.

Things I didn't like:  the overly creepy characters, the cliché aspects of plot and characterization, too many instances of Shermans taking a hit and not catching fire, that tanks were missing too many shots in a row at close range, that the Tiger battle was not pulled off as well as it could have been, that burning tanks didn't light off violently enough, the whole one tank vs. 200-300 guys battle.

The things I liked are where they did research and tried at least to put them in.  The things I didn't like were Hollywoodisms, which I expect in most movies.  Only a rare handful of movies avoid getting polluted by Hollywoodisms, so I am at least a little tolerant there.

This was pretty much my impression as well.  Every movie is going to have parts that we don't like, but that's no reason to hate it.  Nothing is perfect.  I am glad that I paid money to see it, and I will most likely buy it on DVD. 

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Re: Fury
« Reply #149 on: November 09, 2014, 10:29:11 AM »
We can at least be thankful that it isn't a Bollywood film. If it was, the Fury and Tiger crews would have had a dance-off in the middle of the fight...

i might have enjoyed this more
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