OK...so who flies the LA-7?

[glzsqd]

Its quite a handsome bird. One must say.
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If by handsome you actually mean Clownish, than yes.

[Slash27]

Its quite a handsome bird. One must say.
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I believe that's a La-9 Rich.

[GScholz]

The La-9 is just an all-metal La-7 whit a redesigned tail and laminar flow wings.

[icepac]

Two LA7s jumped skyraiders and were quickly shot down.

[bustr]

LA5's cannons are soooo bad. Low rate of fire terrible ballistics, and to top it all off, they don't hit very hard. Got into a prolonged knife fight with joker recently and got a good angle on him. Hit sprite from nose to tail as he pulls up into me. I level out waiting to hear the explosion and get the kill message, but instead I look back to see an angry Dhog d200 on my six with a bloody nose and guns blazing.


I do however think the la5 should at most have an ENy of 25. Its a performance monster

La7 and La5 in two cannon mode use two ShVAK 20mm while three cannon mode is an Berezin B-20 20mm. Both fired exactly the same round with the same performance of 750-790m\sec. Synchronized through the prop, the RPS will be below 700-800 rnds\min. The ShVAK cannon has a slightly longer barrel which made it a bit more accurate and holding flatter to 200m(218yd) with a 1\2inch drop. It was a much more complex cannon than the B-20 and heavier. That's why three B-20 could be mounted. The round weighed 96 grams which allowed for it's very fast velocity and flat trajectory to 200m. It did not carry a lot of HE content. It dropped by 24in by 400m due to that light weight.

Because the cannons are synchronized through the props, you are putting out less 20mm than the Yak's or spits per second. You need to be closer when you shoot or very familiar with the RoF, ballistics, and deflection allowances while shooting from an La. It's destructive power is not as high as a Hisso 20mm or MG151\20. So 200m is your effective range.

[Squire]

The LA-7 is going to feel like it has better climb based on its generally faster top end speed at low alts.

[mechanic]

Careful Squire, you're going to have to back your feelings up with hard evidence to convince some of the aeronautical scientists round here. Apparently the LA7 and La5fn are so close to the same you cannot possibly feel any difference between them. 

[morfiend]

Careful Squire, you're going to have to back your feelings up with hard evidence to convince some of the aeronautical scientists round here. Apparently the LA7 and La5fn are so close to the same you cannot possibly feel any difference between them. 

   


  I'm going to call you on the 10,000 hours tho mate!    I bet it's closer to 9,985 hours but it's just a feeling!




     

[Squire]

I'm simply pointing out that the perception (by some) of a faster climb is likely because of the LA-7s faster speed.

[Ack-Ack]

Apparently the LA7 and La5fn are so close to the same you cannot possibly feel any difference between them. 

And I wonder if those same people think there is no difference when fighting against them.

ack-ack

[GScholz]

Careful Squire, you're going to have to back your feelings up with hard evidence to convince some of the aeronautical scientists round here. Apparently the LA7 and La5fn are so close to the same you cannot possibly feel any difference between them. 

The real crux of the matter is that you can't seem to accept that you're wrong about the La-7's engine not producing more power than the La-5. It simply doesn't. Accept it.

And I wonder if those same people think there is no difference when fighting against them.

ack-ack

Low and slow I'd be hard pressed to tell them apart without the different icons and skins. The faster we go however the bigger the difference. In a B&Z fight the 7 is much better than the 5 since it can carry more speed out of a dive and hold on to it for longer in the zoom climb. Low parasitic drag is what makes the P-51 so good despite having sub-par power to weight.

I'm simply pointing out that the perception (by some) of a faster climb is likely because of the LA-7s faster speed.

Exactly.

[mechanic]

The real crux of the matter is that you can't seem to accept that you're wrong about the La-7's engine not producing more power than the La-5. It simply doesn't. Accept it.

I never said that the LA7 engine produced more power other than one badly worded first post. What I said was the LA7 has more power.  More vertical ability in a stall fight. It is a UFO where the La5 is just decent. None of my statements in this thread are wrong. If you really care that much I will do some tests to prove this to you.

[GScholz]

Not quite the impression I got.

Then I was correct in saying 'more power'. Improved exhaust piping alone can boost horse power...

It's not that important. Prove it or don't; it's up to you.

[mechanic]

Not quite the impression I got.

It's not that important. Prove it or don't; it's up to you.

No, it's not important. But it is interesting that two people can hold such different views about something that I would think is very basic and obvious.

Your position is that there is no difference that the pilot can feel between the two aircraft. Any feeling that the La7 performs better is subjective and wrong as proved by the speed and climb charts.

I think it is so obvious that I am right, there is a difference and an experienced player can definitely feel it, that there really is not point trying to prove it to you.

So...how about:

You prove that there is no discernible difference that one can feel between the two and then I might take your position more seriously. Don't keep stubbornly throwing those speed charts at me, it makes you seem ignorant to base how the aircraft 'feels to fly' on a speed chart.

[Tilt]

The La-9 is just an all-metal La-7 whit a redesigned tail and laminar flow wings.

And 4 x 20mm