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Offline Vraciu

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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2014, 12:34:07 PM »
lol, get rid of jets?


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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2014, 12:34:51 PM »
To make the game work you have to have a constant influx of new meat.

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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2014, 12:36:01 PM »
Addition by subtraction. Is this also what the popular games do?

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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2014, 12:45:30 PM »
I think it is possible that those that take a quick peek to see if there are people on and then log maybe should think about logging in and playing.  There seems to be so many of you that if you all did, then the numbers would be up.  Just log in and play.  Quit waiting for the conditions to be "perfect".  They won't ever be "perfect", just come and play and make the conditions better.  You aren't always going to have even fights, or the type of fight you always want, it will not be "perfect" all the time.  Log in and play, make it better, not worse.  And you former players / BBS lurkers, renew, get in the game and play.

If the only thing you can do to make the game better is to play, then get in a dang plane and fly already.
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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2014, 12:46:59 PM »
^THIS!  :aok

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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2014, 12:49:38 PM »
I think it is possible that those that take a quick peek to see if there are people on and then log maybe should think about logging in and playing.  There seems to be so many of you that if you all did, then the numbers would be up.  Just log in and play.  Quit waiting for the conditions to be "perfect".  They won't ever be "perfect", just come and play and make the conditions better.  You aren't always going to have even fights, or the type of fight you always want, it will not be "perfect" all the time.  Log in and play, make it better, not worse.  And you former players / BBS lurkers, renew, get in the game and play.

If the only thing you can do to make the game better is to play, then get in a dang plane and fly already.

Who does this?  Normally when I settle in here in Europe I just log in.  Normally there are anywhere from 70-100; more on Sunday.  If I have targets to shoot at, then I am "all in"
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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2014, 12:50:38 PM »
I think it is possible that those that take a quick peek to see if there are people on and then log maybe should think about logging in and playing.  There seems to be so many of you that if you all did, then the numbers would be up.  Just log in and play.  Quit waiting for the conditions to be "perfect".  They won't ever be "perfect", just come and play and make the conditions better.  You aren't always going to have even fights, or the type of fight you always want, it will not be "perfect" all the time.  Log in and play, make it better, not worse.  And you former players / BBS lurkers, renew, get in the game and play.

If the only thing you can do to make the game better is to play, then get in a dang plane and fly already.

Don't have the time.   Would rather watch paint dry than drone around an empty arena with no dar bars....   Most agree.

It will be interesting to see everyone over in Warbirds when the doors close here.   Talk about irony.
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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2014, 12:54:07 PM »
Who does this?  Normally when I settle in here in Europe I just log in.  Normally there are anywhere from 70-100; more on Sunday.  If I have targets to shoot at, then I am "all in"

Ammo, they post all the time about it.

(Paraphrased)

Poster 1: "I logged in and saw there wasn't anyone on (this could mean less than 50 per side) so I logged off."

Poster 2: "Same here."

Poster 3: "The numbers are dropping! The game is dying!"

Poster 4: "I can't find a fight! I logged on for a whole minute and one wasn't there! I logged off and then I still couldn't find one, anywhere!"

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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2014, 12:55:08 PM »
Don't have the time.   Would rather watch paint dry than drone around an empty arena with no dar bars....   Most agree.

It will be interesting to see everyone over in Warbirds when the doors close here.   Talk about irony.

Hell, you just came here to whine. Why don't you start the trend without waiting for the sky to fall?

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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2014, 01:09:37 PM »
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2.   GET RID OF ENY, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE ARENA HAS LESS THAN 100 PEOPLE IN IT: ENY as a balancing mechanism is dubious. It may function to get people to try different planes but is that really the goal? Here is what everyone figures out. In most cases, I and my countrymen are going to be flying inferior planes. I’ve seen nearly a whole country log out when ENY kicks in late at night.  
The sides in recent months are the most balanced that I ever remember in the game (Euro nights time). ENY works.
Just for the record, if nearly a whole country logs out, the ENY restriction will be lifted well before the last ones who were bothered by it log out. The Real issue with ENY balancing and restrictions is the 12H side-switching rule that prevents/deters players from switching sides when ENY limits kick in - this is what players are SUPPOSED to do when the sides are unbalanced! gives me 1-2H switching limit and I'll happily switch to the under-manned side.

Restricted planes? What planes other than jets really restrict your gamepay? P51D locked? Fly the B-pony, or is that not good enough for you? P47M? Fly the D25/40. 190D9 locked? Fly A models. La7 locked? Fly La5 and drown in perks, even with ENY bonus multiplier smaller than 1.0. If you are so bothered by being forced out of the D-pony into the total pos that is the B-pony, then switch sides and go seek therapy because you have a bigger personal issue to resolve.
My only problem with ENY is that I cannot up jets to hunt the cheap enemy jets buzzing about.

The other issue with ENY is that it goes out of whack when the numbers are really low - mostly east-asia pacific time. It would be nice if HTC could by pass/tweak this mechanism for them, but by definition they are a small number of players, so a small number of players are affected by this.

Generally I'd say that ENY limiter works more or less.
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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2014, 01:16:50 PM »
I too absolutely hate it when the ENY goes through the roof.  :furious

But not for the planes. There's always something left to fly. Eny stops at 29. BF 109F, G-2, G-6, G4M, Mosquito (!)  = ENY 30. Hurri D for tank busting is at 40 even.

No, it's because a very high ENY usually means having to compete with a dozen other "friendlies" for a kill on that single red con over there.
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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2014, 01:19:54 PM »
When ENY hits I log.  Same with HQ griefing.   No side switch option for balance due to the idiotic 12-hour rule also sucks.  

Enjoy the downward slide....


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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2014, 01:41:43 PM »
My past thread was locked...fine.

This is an excellent post. Five easy solutions, of which primarily the 262 has drawn a majority of comments. Easy, leave the 262 alone and let's work the rest.

There are always two categories of responses when these threads come up: 1, AH is brilliant and are on top of it; and 2, quit whining and play.

Both of these categorical responses are failed. If #1 were true, we would have to get in line to log into an arena of 1,000 sticks, and we've have three Late War arenas running at the same time. Another flight sim, which is clearly arcade in flight characteristic has many fold the number of 'sticks' as we do. My only curiosity with AH: Are they upping the eye candy, letting our numbers dwindle to collapse, knowing that when they launch the new eye candy they will have to attract whole new customer base because of computer requirements. Translation, most current players will have to upgrade their computers with the new eye candy, thus why blow marketing dollars now then repeat after Beta is done. Other than this possibility, #1 is suspect.

#2 is equally flawed. There are always the stalwarts who don't gripe or whine but charge ahead. I applaud them though what we are talking about now is that of culture, which is very hard to change. There must be external factors that drive culture change, not simply double down on what isn't working.

I say go with the suggestions about smaller maps and change the ability to kill radar.

I personally liked another suggestion of 1) keep the perk system then use it to 2) incentive joining missions. When you join a mission and it ultimately takes a field, then every stick shares in some perks, similar to when one side wins the war, all get a perk boost. Perks do matter to many pilots.

Anyway....I've consulted with firms for the better part of 20 years. I have no idea about computer programming and how difficult it would be to make some of these "easy" suggestions. My real world experience screams 'red flags!'

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Re: FIVE Easy Things to Improve the Game NOW
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2014, 01:47:35 PM »
My past thread was locked...fine.

This is an excellent post. Five easy solutions, of which primarily the 262 has drawn a majority of comments. Easy, leave the 262 alone and let's work the rest.


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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2014, 01:49:31 PM »

Removing ENY is not a solution but creating big problems.

And this.

Primarily, smaller maps to make it very difficult to not find a fight; and change the radar kill.

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