Use Stocked Hanger to Replace ENY system

[Randy1]

I don't intend to be argumentative but everyone is free to expand there skills with lower performance planes as it is. You get the bewildered responses because your trying to force people to do something a lot of them already do. I would say if you want to encourage this kind of skill expansion don't take away the choice but argue for a higher reward for flying the older stuff. But really, it is rewarding in its own right anyway.

Hitech, showed me good reason why this wish would not work.  Lets just let it slide away.

[shake307]

To the OP.  This is a terrible idea.  I award you no points.  May God have mercy on your soul.

[Fish42]

If you want people to fly other planes then you need to entice not restrict them. People get annoyed very quickly when they feel they have been forced into a "choice".

Here is an example of a wish that would incentivise diversity, without restricting what you can fly.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,346164.0.html

[BaldEagl]

I 100% understand your wish. But like most people you are not following the rules when thinking about ideas.

You must ask and be very honest with yourself, what are the down sides of "my idea", and not only the things you like about the idea. Ask yourself how will it change players behavior. Try think of your own choices under different situations .

Say you like flying lower but non perked planes. You only have 1 or 2 left. You have just created a "FORCE" that pushes people to fly more timid then they do today. In fact overall you have put more weight on not dieing in general because you will loose a plane. This is a FORCE "wish to live" that must be very carefully dealt with in an open arena environment.

The reason is that if the high priority in a discussion tree is the "need to live". I.E. A loss greatly out weighs a victory. The game very quickly degrades to nothing but chasing each other around, and people only attack when they are at a major advantage.

HiTech

Very well stated HiTech. 


Randy, if you want a limited number of planes/lives fly the next scenario.

[bustr]

I 100% understand your wish. But like most people you are not following the rules when thinking about ideas.

You must ask and be very honest with yourself, what are the down sides of "my idea", and not only the things you like about the idea. Ask yourself how will it change players behavior. Try think of your own choices under different situations .

Say you like flying lower but non perked planes. You only have 1 or 2 left. You have just created a "FORCE" that pushes people to fly more timid then they do today. In fact overall you have put more weight on not dieing in general because you will loose a plane. This is a FORCE "wish to live" that must be very carefully dealt with in an open arena environment.

The reason is that if the high priority in a discussion tree is the "need to live". I.E. A loss greatly out weighs a victory. The game very quickly degrades to nothing but chasing each other around, and people only attack when they are at a major advantage.

HiTech

Some day it would be interesting to hear strategies to help players balance this and stop worrying about "need to live". Then is there a tipping point on the focus for victory that turns game play into a negative proportionate to being too focused on the "need to live"? One might think in our current game evolution, we could use more focus on victory than survival. But, it probably would not turn out well play wise for those on the receiving end after a while.

Thank you HiTech for this well delivered response. My apologies to Randy1 over pushing for an answer that HiTech was more delicate and thoughtful in this post.

[Randy1]

No problem Bustr.

[Changeup]

I 100% understand your wish. But like most people you are not following the rules when thinking about ideas.

You must ask and be very honest with yourself, what are the down sides of "my idea", and not only the things you like about the idea. Ask yourself how will it change players behavior. Try think of your own choices under different situations .

Say you like flying lower but non perked planes. You only have 1 or 2 left. You have just created a "FORCE" that pushes people to fly more timid then they do today. In fact overall you have put more weight on not dieing in general because you will loose a plane. This is a FORCE "wish to live" that must be very carefully dealt with in an open arena environment.

The reason is that if the high priority in a discussion tree is the "need to live". I.E. A loss greatly out weighs a victory. The game very quickly degrades to nothing but chasing each other around, and people only attack when they are at a major advantage.

HiTech

I am at a loss for words.  You DO recognize the timidity of the way the game is played today.  (Tips hat)

[Wiley]

I am at a loss for words.  You DO recognize the timidity of the way the game is played today.  (Tips hat)

And it's that way with very little incentive to fly that way.  Think how much worse it would be if there was actual, tangible incentive to do it.

Wiley.

[guncrasher]

And it's that way with very little incentive to fly that way.  Think how much worse it would be if there was actual, tangible incentive to do it.

Wiley.

what incentive can you guys give to players to change the way they play?  think about it.  will it get them a better job?  new car?  lots of hot dates?  free game play?

most guys dont really give a crap about kills, base take, perkies.  all they care is about having fun, their way.  they come here they up their favorite plane, they fly around pretending to be fighter pilots, joke around with others, have some fun then say good nite and log off.

The main incentive of the game is each one of us wants to have a little fun our way, not yours.  I dont come here with the sole purpose of making it fun for others.  I come here because it is fun for me.  I have made really good friends and not one of them has ever tried to "give me an incentive" to fly a different way than I do.

some of you guys are really good at calling others' way of playing the game "timid".  I have been around, some of you guys play exactly the way you think others play.


semp

[Wiley]

what incentive can you guys give to players to change the way they play?  think about it.  will it get them a better job?  new car?  lots of hot dates?  free game play?

Well, it seems kind of blindingly obvious that the idea in the OP giving a limited number of planes to people would be a substantial motivator for people to fly to live.

Wiley.

[guncrasher]

Well, it seems kind of blindingly obvious that the idea in the OP giving a limited number of planes to people would be a substantial motivator for people to fly to live.

Wiley.

it will be a substantial motivator for people to quit the game.


semp

[wpeters]

What your system does not do is encourage flying high ENY value planes and also creates great problems when person likes one specific plane that is currently not perked.

Hi Tech

Which one first.  LA-7

[Changeup]

it will be a substantial motivator for people to quit the game.


semp

Because they'd rather live than fight.  lol.  See how that works? 

Sorry  Wiley...he was holding his chin up again.  I know it was your shot but I took it anyway.

[Lucifer]

Exactly, here would be the problem !

I for one would absolutely hate this. Why should I not be able to fly a plane because other people (due to lack of skill or malicious intent) crashed them all?