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[guncrasher]

Only for you semp, not the top 9 players in fighter scores. The top most used planes by the highest scores in fighter are:
262- over 465 kills total
K4
152
Temp
P51
F4U4
La7
190D

Which unmistakably just so happen to be the fastest planes in the game.

I would get that in a zero by myself.


semp

[Skyyr]

Rubbish! A faster plane can slow down to make the kill. A slower plane cannot invent speed it does not have.

By stating a faster plane can slow down, you just proved my point.

It is not the speed of a fast aircraft that helps it kill, as it would not need to slow down. All speed does is allow the aircraft to survive better than a slower aircraft would. Slower aircraft in general have better wing loading and therefore lose less airspeed during maneuvering, providing more maneuverability and more stable guns platforms.

A perfect example of this is an LA-7 vs an Me-262. Given equal pilots, the LA-7 will almost always have more kills and better accuracy, yet it is slower. This is because maneuverability is the key to getting kills, not speed. Speed simply dictates tactics; without maneuverability (which is inversely related to airspeed above corner speed, as a general rule), all of the airspeed in the world is useless.

[Someguy63]

By stating a faster plane can slow down, you just proved my point.

It is not the speed of a fast aircraft that helps it kill, as it would not need to slow down. All speed does is allow the aircraft to survive better than a slower aircraft would. Slower aircraft in general have better wing loading and therefore lose less airspeed during maneuvering, providing more maneuverability and more stable guns platforms.

A perfect example of this is an LA-7 vs an Me-262. Given equal pilots, the LA-7 will almost always have more kills and better accuracy, yet it is slower. This is because maneuverability is the key to getting kills, not speed. Speed simply dictates tactics; without maneuverability (which is inversely related to airspeed above corner speed, as a general rule), all of the airspeed in the world is useless.

Skyyr is right, though this doesn't apply to all players.

[Biggamer]

turn fighting in a 262 is fun

[xPoisonx]

Only for you semp, not the top 9 players in fighter scores. The top most used planes by the highest scores in fighter are:
262- over 465 kills total
K4
152
Temp
P51
F4U4
La7
190D

Which unmistakably just so happen to be the fastest planes in the game.

The 152 isn't fast 

[Lusche]

Agreed.

The scoring system is slanted heavily towards encouraging turn fighting as opposed to other tactics.

As others have already said: It's very much the opposite. If you really want to get to fighter rank number one without actually being the best of the best, try flying a hard hitting high speed monster plane.
Very few players would be able to get to #1 by using a relatively slow, but 'turny' plane, where often your fight ends by your opponent speeding away in his Pony or LA  or you are getting picked off. A fast monster plane allows you to rush in, kill, then race away looking for the next victims. This allows you to keep up your kills/sortie and kills/hour. Planes like the Pony (yes, I'm serious), Tempest, Me 262 and so on are perfect for this.

With something like a Tempest, you can swoop through a furball or smash a Jabo raid and harvest half a dozen kills while staying almost untouchable the whole time.
Of course there's also a good dose of skill required still, but much less than doign the same thing in a slow turner.

I have been ranked #1 fighter 8 times in my AH career. Each time, without exception, it only happened because I was flying almost exclusively monsters like that - Me 262, Me 163, Tempest. No way I would ever be ranked #1 in something like a Zero or even Spit 8.
There are players capable of pulling that off, but it's only a very tiny minority... perhaps like 10-20 at most?

[craz07]

Skyyr is right, though this doesn't apply to all players.

False, skill is always the determining factor.. regardless of the tool being used.. so if you fly like a flea-infested baboon, your results will reflect that  

[SkyRock]

It's actually harder to get kills in a faster plane

  that is exactly why all the air forces of the world were trying to make their planes faster... to make the killing harder! 

[DmonSlyr]

As others have already said: It's very much the opposite. If you really want to get to fighter rank number one without actually being the best of the best, try flying a hard hitting high speed monster plane.
Very few players would be able to get to #1 by using a relatively slow, but 'turny' plane, where often your fight ends by your opponent speeding away in his Pony or LA  or you are getting picked off. A fast monster plane allows you to rush in, kill, then race away looking for the next victims. This allows you to keep up your kills/sortie and kills/hour. Planes like the Pony (yes, I'm serious), Tempest, Me 262 and so on are perfect for this.

With something like a Tempest, you can swoop through a furball or smash a Jabo raid and harvest half a dozen kills while staying almost untouchable the whole time.
Of course there's also a good dose of skill required still, but much less than doign the same thing in a slow turner.

I have been ranked #1 fighter 8 times in my AH career. Each time, without exception, it only happened because I was flying almost exclusively monsters like that - Me 262, Me 163, Tempest. No way I would ever be ranked #1 in something like a Zero or even Spit 8.
There are players capable of pulling that off, but it's only a very tiny minority... perhaps like 10-20 at most?

Welp, there you have it folks. He understands what I am trying to  say.

[xPoisonx]

 that is exactly why all the air forces of the world were trying to make their planes faster... to make the killing harder!  

To lessen their deaths maybe. Listen to german pilot's opinions on the 262, they often mention how hard it was to line up a shot.

[TW9]

To lessen their deaths maybe. Listen to german pilot's opinions on the 262, they often mention how hard it was to line up a shot.

German pilots had trouble lining up shots anyways by then. Most of their good pilots were already dead by the time the 262 came out.

[Zerstorer]

 that is exactly why all the air forces of the world were trying to make their planes faster... to make the killing harder!  

You neglect to mention how things like missiles, radar and automation help negate the difficulties.... but I'm sure that's just an oversight on your part. Or that the actual knife fighting speeds jets engage at are below their maximum speed..

[Changeup]

You neglect to mention how things like missiles, radar and automation help negate the difficulties.... but I'm sure that's just an oversight on your part. Or that the actual knife fighting speeds jets engage at are below their maximum speed..

During WWII lol.  As in, like, this game.

[JunkyII]

You neglect to mention how things like missiles, radar and automation help negate the difficulties.... but I'm sure that's just an oversight on your part. Or that the actual knife fighting speeds jets engage at are below their maximum speed..

keyword from SkyRock was were....lets not bring Fighter Jet talk up in here or Mace is going to put everyone in their place.

[Changeup]

As others have already said: It's very much the opposite. If you really want to get to fighter rank number one without actually being the best of the best, try flying a hard hitting high speed monster plane.
Very few players would be able to get to #1 by using a relatively slow, but 'turny' plane, where often your fight ends by your opponent speeding away in his Pony or LA  or you are getting picked off. A fast monster plane allows you to rush in, kill, then race away looking for the next victims. This allows you to keep up your kills/sortie and kills/hour. Planes like the Pony (yes, I'm serious), Tempest, Me 262 and so on are perfect for this.

With something like a Tempest, you can swoop through a furball or smash a Jabo raid and harvest half a dozen kills while staying almost untouchable the whole time.
Of course there's also a good dose of skill required still, but much less than doign the same thing in a slow turner.

I have been ranked #1 fighter 8 times in my AH career. Each time, without exception, it only happened because I was flying almost exclusively monsters like that - Me 262, Me 163, Tempest. No way I would ever be ranked #1 in something like a Zero or even Spit 8.
There are players capable of pulling that off, but it's only a very tiny minority... perhaps like 10-20 at most?

That makes Grizzs accomplishments even better.  His months, what, 22, and always in fighter mode.  Lots of 262 sorties but mostly K4 and 152