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Offline Saxman

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Re: The Force Awakens
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2014, 07:13:35 PM »
Anyone seen the Despecialized Edition? Holy crap is it worth it.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2014, 02:04:18 AM »
Is there a version that's in black and white with a ton of static and wavy lines like you're watching with rabbit ears on that channel that never would come in worth a damn?

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 02:51:23 AM »
I think it'll be better than most of the other movies.
If they can make it worse than the last 3 that would be some serious achievement.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2014, 11:08:19 AM »
Personally, I don't really care about the lightsaber. It's the X-wing redesign that I'm not fond of. The way the wing scissors open just ends up looking awkward.

THANK you!!! Why the heck did they have to redesign the X-Wing? If you wanted to "modernize it", use the K-Wing, E-Wing, or any of the myriad of other new designs introduced in the Extended Universe rather than raping an original design. THAT really bothers me, and I'm afraid of what else they're going to contradict.

Nonetheless, I WILL be at the midnight premiere, just as I was with the last one.

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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2014, 11:11:00 AM »
THANK you!!! Why the heck did they have to redesign the X-Wing? If you wanted to "modernize it", use the K-Wing, E-Wing, or any of the myriad of other new designs introduced in the Extended Universe rather than raping an original design. THAT really bothers me, and I'm afraid of what else they're going to contradict.

Nonetheless, I WILL be at the midnight premiere, just as I was with the last one.


Except the EU is no longer "cannon" in this new setting....  :cry

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2014, 01:31:49 PM »

Except the EU is no longer "cannon" in this new setting....  :cry

Thank god.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2014, 03:03:31 PM »
Wont see it unless Jar Jar has a starring role  :D
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2014, 05:21:27 PM »
Thank god.


But the EU has great stuff! Republic Commando's, Old Republic, Post Return of the Jedi epicness, etc etc....

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2014, 05:48:05 PM »
Wont see it unless Jar Jar has a starring role  :D

Jar Jar is directing.  Yousa stand over dare okey day?
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2014, 06:53:07 PM »

But the EU has great stuff! Republic Commando's, Old Republic, Post Return of the Jedi epicness, etc etc....

Zahn, Stackpole and Allston. Most of the rest isn't worth speaking of.
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2014, 07:32:04 PM »
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this trailer has over 45 millions views on Tube in 7-8days ,since Nov 28th and the movie comes  in Dec 2015  :O
 
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2014, 07:33:14 PM »
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and I'm afraid of what else they're going to contradict.
Everything.  I have nearly every book published in the Star Wars line, and there are some absolutely amazing stories in there.
The producers were stating early on that they will not be following any of the existing lines, it's a complete revision to what happened in the existing story lines.  
Probably something to do with royalties for all of those who helped contribute to the Star Wars "Universe".  Literally hundreds of authors have all contributed in one way or another to the evolution of the movie tie ins and back stories.  This will be a reason to kick off an entirely new line of movies, characters, and books just like they did with Star Trek.
Will it be good?  Who knows, probably going to be great for first viewers, might even be good if I can avoid the frustration of years of story lines being absolutely worthless :)
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2014, 08:01:50 PM »
Everything.  I have nearly every book published in the Star Wars line, and there are some absolutely amazing stories in there.
The producers were stating early on that they will not be following any of the existing lines, it's a complete revision to what happened in the existing story lines.  
Probably something to do with royalties for all of those who helped contribute to the Star Wars "Universe".  Literally hundreds of authors have all contributed in one way or another to the evolution of the movie tie ins and back stories.  This will be a reason to kick off an entirely new line of movies, characters, and books just like they did with Star Trek.
Will it be good?  Who knows, probably going to be great for first viewers, might even be good if I can avoid the frustration of years of story lines being absolutely worthless :)

Most of the EU was garbage. If it had Kevin J. Anderon's name on it, it wasn't fit for toilet paper. The Bantam books had some outright AWFUL (Crystal Star) to just plain WEIRD (Planet of Twilight; holy crap, I think the author may have been ON it when she came up with this idea) books, others that completely disregarded the rules of how things worked in-universe (Black Fleet Crisis), and characters you just wanted to strangle (Callista. And pretty much EVERYONE Anderson came up with. I wanted Kyp Durron to die horribly LONG before NJO dial his oscar-hattery up to eleven). Karen Traviss turned the Mandalorians into just about the worst gang of Mary Sues since the Bat Family (which is pretty impressive considering Batman and Cassie Cain are probably THE two worst Mary Sues in comics all by themselves). New Jedi Order read like someone slapped the Star Wars name on an entirely different franchise. Legacy of the Force was outright ridiculous: Jacen "Contemplate Our Navels" Solo as a Sith Lord? Daala -- THE most incompetent Imperial command officer IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE (which is saying a LOT), and who PMSed her way through one half-baked plot after another, oh, and who was also a WANTED WAR CRIMINAL (you think I'm joking? EVERY BOOK SHE WAS IN ended with her crying over a tub of ice cream) -- getting elected president? You have GOT to be kidding me.

Frankly, the fact that the EU has been wiped from continuity is about the only universally GOOD news to come from Disney's involvement.
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2014, 08:11:15 PM »
Most of the EU was garbage. If it had Kevin J. Anderon's name on it, it wasn't fit for toilet paper. The Bantam books had some outright AWFUL (Crystal Star) to just plain WEIRD (Planet of Twilight; holy crap, I think the author may have been ON it when she came up with this idea) books, others that completely disregarded the rules of how things worked in-universe (Black Fleet Crisis), and characters you just wanted to strangle (Callista. And pretty much EVERYONE Anderson came up with. I wanted Kyp Durron to die horribly LONG before NJO dial his oscar-hattery up to eleven). Karen Traviss turned the Mandalorians into just about the worst gang of Mary Sues since the Bat Family (which is pretty impressive considering Batman and Cassie Cain are probably THE two worst Mary Sues in comics all by themselves). New Jedi Order read like someone slapped the Star Wars name on an entirely different franchise. Legacy of the Force was outright ridiculous: Jacen "Contemplate Our Navels" Solo as a Sith Lord? Daala -- THE most incompetent Imperial command officer IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE (which is saying a LOT), and who PMSed her way through one half-baked plot after another, oh, and who was also a WANTED WAR CRIMINAL (you think I'm joking? EVERY BOOK SHE WAS IN ended with her crying over a tub of ice cream) -- getting elected president? You have GOT to be kidding me.

Frankly, the fact that the EU has been wiped from continuity is about the only universally GOOD news to come from Disney's involvement.

Only Star Wars books ive read are the "X-wing series" which looking back where kind of crappy, and Shadows of the Empire, which was ok (I personally thought the soundtrack was the coolest part to come out of that whole thing). I hear Heir to the Empire is a good series but I'm a little hesitant because I really don't want to get caught reading a starwars novel by someone I might know.
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Re: The Force Awakens
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2014, 08:27:45 PM »
Only Star Wars books ive read are the "X-wing series" which looking back where kind of crappy, and Shadows of the Empire, which was ok (I personally thought the soundtrack was the coolest part to come out of that whole thing). I hear Heir to the Empire is a good series but I'm a little hesitant because I really don't want to get caught reading a starwars novel by someone I might know.

The Thrawn Trilogy (Heir to the Empire / Dark Force Rising / The Last Command) is THE best Star Wars story since The Empire Strikes Back. Timothy Zahn absolutely NAILED it. Hell, his hints about the Clone Wars were FAR and away better than what Lucas came up with. He even got to name the Republic/Imperial capital (the very first MENTION of Coruscant was in Heir to the Empire).

The X-Wing series was actually very well-done, with lots of fun Easter Eggs (@#$%ing Redemption Mission...) and did a wonderful job fleshing out secondary film characters like Wedge, Tycho, Hobbie and Jansen. There was a heightened sense of danger because you weren't dealing with any major characters so you there was a genuine possibility of characters dying (but without overdoing it, unlike SOME writers *cough*Martin*cough*), and Stackpole (who's an easy #2 on the list of best Star Wars writers) worked very closely with Zahn, which is why their respective books mesh together so well, and actually FEEL like they're part of one universe, while most of the rest of the EU authors just did whatever the hell they wanted, which helped greatly contribute to the very disjointed feel of the EU. (Stackpole's I, Jedi and Zahn's Hand of Thrawn Duology even work together as a pseudo-trilogy).

And Allston's books in the series were HILARIOUS. The Ewok Pilot running gag especially had me in stitches, but it was also the Wraiths' general insanity. Also, Jansen, full stop.
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