Jim Harbaugh new coach of Michigan Wolverines?

[JunkyII]

I was merely addressing Rot's claim.   Nothing more, nothing less.   

No you saying "Ray Rice" is saying that John is not a respectable coach which is absolutely outrageous to say.

[RotBaron]

Ray Rice and you can keep skirting the fact.

I haven't skirted it. I've said that Jon was not part of the decision making regarding Rice. So I'm not sure how Ray Rice's repugnant indiscretion is a reflection on Jon Harbaugh.

Is there something I don't know, like: Harbaugh saying he thinks Ray should stick around, not get punished, etc?

[Brooke]

I think when he matures, he'll be a great coach.

I don't know what you are talking about.

Question is really do you think he'll be good for your team.

Yep -- I think he'll be great for it, for the Big 10, and for college football overall.

Would I want Jim Harbaugh, no. . . .

I don't think you'll have to worry about getting Harbaugh, but I think you'd be nuts to not want him if you could get him unless you are Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State, LSU, Michigan State, etc.  

because I don't think he brings respect from the collective and larger community with him, it's not an asset of his.

Respect?  Let's see.  He was a great quarterback at Michigan.  He went on to be a pro quarterback -- only a very few college quarterbacks manage that, even ones with good college records.  In the NFL, he was for a good portion of his career the starting quarterback (another large step up).  In that capacity, had at least some excellent seasons (another large step up).  Then, out of playing football and into coaching, he built a winning program at San Diego State, which sucked before he got there.  He moved on to Stanford, which was usually the joke of the Pac 10, and built it into a nationally ranked top 4 powerhouse.  Then he went on to coach the 49ers.  The year before he got there (2010), the 49ers went 6-10 and no playoffs.  With Harbaugh in 2011, they went to the NFC Championship (first time since 1997) and lost a close game to the eventual Super Bowl champs.  In 2012, they went to the Super Bowl.  In 2013, the went to the NFC Championship game and lost a close game to the Seahawks, who went on to win the Super Bowl in a blowout.  In 2014, they didn't make it to the playoffs.

So, yeah, I guess probably few people respect the guy.

If all you want is wins, no matter no how; then he's your guy.

Excellent.  I'll take that -- and that he is a hugely accomplished man with a great record of success.  I'll just have to live with the deep regret that he doesn't have your approval or respect.

Assuming he becomes the coach of Michigan, that is.  We won't know for sure until tomorrow.

[Nathan60]

I think when he matures, he'll be a great coach. He pals around with players, that may actually work well for him in a college setting again.

Question is really do you think he'll be good for your team? I'll put this from my frame, I'm a CSU alumni and big fan of our small yet feisty football program. Would I want Jim Harbaugh, no. Not because he'd leave and take more $, lets say hypothetically that would not happen; it's because I don't think he brings respect from the collective and larger community with him, it's not an asset of his.

CSU's program, albeit small, has a rich history with the legacy of Sonny Lubick; the brats and behavior problems go to CU (Boulder) and we like it that way. Anywho I digress...

If all you want is wins, no matter no how; then he's your guy.

Have you seen how some of the players are reacting tohim being fired? Frank Gore, Kapernick and others have all said they liked the guy. In terms of CSU I think they got a great coach in Bobo. Where does Harbaugh lose your respect tho? Because he shows passion? Because he expects top effort? Harbaugh has always shown his passion even as a kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqlBGQti2RU The kid in the blue shirt running to the endzone is Jim Harbaugh.


EDIT: YUP, players hated this guy https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AF604D90801161145981367148544_236f234ec3d.5.1.8910763042519796226.mp4?versionId=DveI6h.4R34Ni7ZL331H6w0swx9cRomI

[jimson]

I think when he matures, he'll be a great coach. He pals around with players, that may actually work well for him in a college setting again.

Question is really do you think he'll be good for your team? I'll put this from my frame, I'm a CSU alumni and big fan of our small yet feisty football program. Would I want Jim Harbaugh, no. Not because he'd leave and take more $, lets say hypothetically that would not happen; it's because I don't think he brings respect from the collective and larger community with him, it's not an asset of his.

CSU's program, albeit small, has a rich history with the legacy of Sonny Lubick; the brats and behavior problems go to CU (Boulder) and we like it that way. Anywho I digress...

If all you want is wins, no matter no how; then he's your guy.

If I was a Michigan fan, he is the only guy I would want.

You had Lloyd Carr who lost to Appalachian State and then retired but stayed on to undermine Rich Rodriguez who for that, never really fitting in and other reasons failed there but has succeeded here at Arizona. Thanks Big Blue for sending him to us  .

Then Hoke, unproven but a by-god Michigan Man.

The program now totally in the toilet and who else out there would satisfy the fans and alumni and cadre of Michigan men boosters? Who else would they be patient with? Who else will put butts in the seats and recruits on the roster?

That 48 million they are spending would be lost in revenue anyway if they didn't hire him.

[Nathan60]

If I was a Michigan fan, he is the only guy I would want.

You had Lloyd Carr who lost to Appalachian State and then retired but stayed on to undermine Rich Rodriguez who for that, never really fitting in and other reasons failed there but has succeeded here at Arizona. Thanks Big Blue for sending him to us  .

Then Hoke, unproven but a by-god Michigan Man.

The program now totally in the toilet and who else out there would satisfy the fans and alumni and cadre of Michigan men boosters? Who else would they be patient with? Who else will put butts in the seats and recruits on the roster?

That 48 million they are spending would be lost in revenue anyway if they didn't hire him.

BIG Blue is Kentucky Michigan is just Blue. problem I think for RR is that he never got a good Defensive coordinator. As for Hoke I liked the guy but the obvious lack of development by the players and the fact he may have had the best running back(Drake Johnson) 4th on the depth chart was enough for me, also it seems that the team had no drive no passion.

[RotBaron]

Brooke:

No hard feelings, Harbaugh is clearly the coach you like to and will have; hopefully he'll give the Big Blue fans what they want.

 

 

[Brooke]

Harbaugh is clearly the coach you . . . will have

Here's hoping! 

[Brooke]

You had Lloyd Carr who lost to Appalachian State and then retired

One supposed reason for the Appalachian State loss is here, which if true is horribly idiodic:
http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Former-Michigan-player-Nearly-half-the-team-was-stoned-during-Appalachian-State-loss-10-2-3043

But, that year, Michigan also beat #9 Florida (with Heisman winner Tebow as quarterback and Urban Meyer as coach, and which was national champ the year before) in the Capital One Bowl.

Lloyd Carr was a decent coach.

Rodriguez was a good coach at Michigan in some ways (offense built into something quite good) and was a horrible coach at Michigan in other ways (defense, and refusing to get a new defensive coordinator to fix things until too late, which seems stupidly obstinate of him).  The thing I didn't like about him is that, without a pro-style offense, while you might win more college games, you won't place as many quarterbacks into the pros.  Changing from pro-style lost them Ryan Mallett, an outstanding QB, and to me it was unwise to get a coach that would require a whole rebuilding of the offense.  Also, I didn't like how he wouldn't take steps to fix the defense.  Instead of Rodriguez, I was hoping most for Harbaugh (luring him away from Stanford) and secondly for Les Miles (if possible) and thirdly for some other higher-tier coach.  Then after RR, getting Brady Hoke from San Diego State was a foolish move.  Michigan can afford to go big, not take chances on someone from San Diego State.

I'm fine with Rodriguez doing well at Arizona.  If he hired into a situation where he didn't have to fix the defense, then he doesn't have what was his demise at Michigan.  Things could go well in that case and did.

[Nathan60]

Brooke chat sports is a crock, they tend to throw stuff out to get traffic. Les or Harbaugh should have gotten an offer after once Carr retired but were never given one and RR was hired, then Brandon never even considered Les when he Hired Hoke. I am so glad to see DBrandon gone and I have so far been really impressed with Jim Hackett he should be given the AD job full time I say,

[jimson]

One supposed reason for the Appalachian State loss is here, which if true is horribly idiodic:
http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Former-Michigan-player-Nearly-half-the-team-was-stoned-during-Appalachian-State-loss-10-2-3043

But, that year, Michigan also beat #9 Florida (with Heisman winner Tebow as quarterback and Urban Meyer as coach, and which was national champ the year before) in the Capital One Bowl.

Lloyd Carr was a decent coach.

Rodriguez was a good coach at Michigan in some ways (offense built into something quite good) and was a horrible coach at Michigan in other ways (defense, and refusing to get a new defensive coordinator to fix things until too late, which seems stupidly obstinate of him).  The thing I didn't like about him is that, without a pro-style offense, while you might win more college games, you won't place as many quarterbacks into the pros.  Changing from pro-style lost them Ryan Mallett, an outstanding QB, and to me it was unwise to get a coach that would require a whole rebuilding of the offense.  Also, I didn't like how he wouldn't take steps to fix the defense.  Instead of Rodriguez, I was hoping most for Harbaugh (luring him away from Stanford) and secondly for Les Miles (if possible) and thirdly for some other higher-tier coach.  Then after RR, getting Brady Hoke from San Diego State was a foolish move.  Michigan can afford to go big, not take chances on someone from San Diego State.

I'm fine with Rodriguez doing well at Arizona.  If he hired into a situation where he didn't have to fix the defense, then he doesn't have what was his demise at Michigan.  Things could go well in that case and did.

That too was somewhat of a failure on UM's part for not parting with the bucks needed to get Rodriguez's preferred D coordinator Jeff Casteel, but RR should have been more flexible I suppose in not insisting on the 3-3-5 odd stack defense if he didn't have a DC who knew it.

[Brooke]

Brooke chat sports is a crock, they tend to throw stuff out to get traffic.

Thanks -- I'm glad to hear it, as that story would be really grim if true.

Les or Harbaugh should have gotten an offer after once Carr retired but were never given one and RR was hired, then Brandon never even considered Les when he Hired Hoke.

I had the same feelings.

and I have so far been really impressed with Jim Hackett he should be given the AD job full time I say,

Snagging Harbaugh certainly bodes well for him! 

[Brooke]

YES!

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12097742/jim-harbaugh-introduced-michigan-wolverines-football-coach

[Nathan60]

YES!

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12097742/jim-harbaugh-introduced-michigan-wolverines-football-coach

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Uggh ESPIN is horrible but anyway here is a link to the Full Presser if you didn't wathch it live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqj0e9j4MM0

[Nefarious]

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LOL