time to neuter engine off/on ?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

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I know Skyyr knows this story, but I'll retell it for any of you that don't know it...  Brigadier General Robin Olds claims to be the only pilot in history to record a kill as a glider.  Olds was flying his P-38 one day while escorting some B-17's when he spotted over 50 109's preparing to attack the formation.  Despite being outnumbered 15 to 1, Olds ordered his flight to drop their tanks and get ready for a fight.  So excited was he, Olds dropped his tanks and forgot to switch his fuel feed, thus starving his Lockheed of power.  Undaunted, he promptly killed one of the 109's whilst gliding.  His wingman picked him up and killed two more while Olds was getting his Allison's back on-line, and the pair went on to save the heavies and spread death and fear through the Luftwaffe.  

The way I see it, if one of the most skilled and accomplished fighter pilots in American history can do it once by accident, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to do it over and over again in this video game on purpose.  For me, it adds to the immersion.    As a matter of fact, I have a tiny picture of Brig. Gen. Olds taped to an open spot right above the button I have mapped for the engines... thinking of him each time I cut my engines in a fight.  

  Brig. Gen. Robin Olds

To me it sounds that someone was lucky to survive the mistake and live to tell about it. We should not promote foolhardy getaway activity in the game.

[Changeup]

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I know Skyyr knows this story, but I'll retell it for any of you that don't know it...  Brigadier General Robin Olds claims to be the only pilot in history to record a kill as a glider.  Olds was flying his P-38 one day while escorting some B-17's when he spotted over 50 109's preparing to attack the formation.  Despite being outnumbered 15 to 1, Olds ordered his flight to drop their tanks and get ready for a fight.  So excited was he, Olds dropped his tanks and forgot to switch his fuel feed, thus starving his Lockheed of power.  Undaunted, he promptly killed one of the 109's whilst gliding.  His wingman picked him up and killed two more while Olds was getting his Allison's back on-line, and the pair went on to save the heavies and spread death and fear through the Luftwaffe.  

The way I see it, if one of the most skilled and accomplished fighter pilots in American history can do it once by accident, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to do it over and over again in this video game on purpose.  For me, it adds to the immersion.    As a matter of fact, I have a tiny picture of Brig. Gen. Olds taped to an open spot right above the button I have mapped for the engines... thinking of him each time I cut my engines in a fight.  

  Brig. Gen. Robin Olds

BaHAHAHA!

[Krupinski]

Did The Darned hack your account, Triton? 

[Zerstorer]

Neuter?! That implies as if it is overpowered in some way...everything I have heard people around here say it's that it doesn't work and actually makes you lose E

      

But remember Kruel....Winning a fight with "E" doesn't count either!




I know...it gets so confusing! 

[Skyyr]

Bombers saving bombers. Heart warming.

Ok, that's funny.

[Aspen]

I'm not a pilot, but I assume it was little more involved than just tapping the "E" key to be back at full power instantly.  So, its gamey...as are a ton of other parts of the game.  I'm fine if hey make it more realistic (if it isn't) but it's probably somewhere on page 9 of stuff that matters.

[hitech]

I'm not a pilot, but I assume it was little more involved than just tapping the "E" key to be back at full power instantly.  So, its gamey...as are a ton of other parts of the game.  I'm fine if hey make it more realistic (if it isn't) but it's probably somewhere on page 9 of stuff that matters.

It is not in any way complicated in most real planes. I've done it in real life while inverted before (was on wrong tank). I would also bet on long missions it was the norm for most pilots to have the engine stop producing power after a tank goes dry.

HiTech

[Canspec]

I'm not a pilot, but I assume it was little more involved than just tapping the "E" key to be back at full power instantly.  So, its gamey...as are a ton of other parts of the game.  I'm fine if hey make it more realistic (if it isn't) but it's probably somewhere on page 9 of stuff that matters.

You are correct......it is gamey. Actually, people who have no flight experience can be better at this game because they have no preconceived notions about what an aircraft should or should not do. They just make the aircraft do whatever the game will allow.

[Triton28]

Did The Darned hack your account, Triton? 

No.  Skyyr and I agree on a lot of things.  The hot start procedure for WWII era airplanes is just one of them.    

[Canspec]

It is not in any way complicated in most real planes. I've done it in real life while inverted before (was on wrong tank). I would also bet on long missions it was the norm for most pilots to have the engine stop producing power after a tank goes dry.

HiTech

But I'll bet you sucked up a lot of seat until you figured out it was on the wrong tank...

[RotBaron]

Are you referring to in air or on ground starts?

HiTech

This was intended to be a parody of the "neutering of 109s" and not really anything too terribly serious.

However there is a small amount of sincerity in it where I have seen Skyyr and Kruel (I believe) use it to advantage. There are so many in here that say it actually does not help them at all, but rather kills there ability to retain E. I could swear I've seen the turn radius tighten with the engine off and the fact that it's full throttle seconds later does seem gamey to me.

If a hot start up in air is as easy as it is in game (pressing E) then I apologize for the annoyance and you having to spend anytime thinking about this.

 

[Copprhed]

But I'll bet you sucked up a lot of seat until you figured out it was on the wrong tank...

Nah....he's got a hack for that......  

[pipz]

It is not in any way complicated in most real planes. I've done it in real life while inverted before (was on wrong tank). I would also bet on long missions it was the norm for most pilots to have the engine stop producing power after a tank goes dry.

HiTech

Robin Olds did that in his 38. Droped his tank and forgot to switch to internal. Shot down a Hun while his engines were still off. He restarted his engines in flight. 

[Slash27]

If a hot start up in air is as easy as it is in game (pressing E) then I apologize for the annoyance and you having to spend anytime thinking about this.

 

I did it once in my grandmother's Ford Granada when I was 16 and blew the muffler off it.

[hitech]

If a hot start up in air is as easy as it is in game (pressing E) then I apologize for the annoyance and you having to spend anytime thinking about this.

Many single engine planes it is as simple as push 1 lever forward to run, back to stop. It really really is that simple.

But I'll bet you sucked up a lot of seat until you figured out it was on the wrong tank...

Not really new instantly what was up,I  had more of a pucker the first time I was testing fuel usage by running a tank dry on the Cherokee 6, it has a strange thing of coming back to life in 1 or 2 seconds after fuel lever is moved, then stop again for 1 to 2 seconds then back to life. The first time it stopped again after starting gave me a little chill.

HiTech