By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster

[Lusche]

would there be a "turny" bird in the top ten...1 at least....for some reason I dont think so.

In 2004 the "top 10 killers" by that measurement (k-d) were

La-7
Fw 190D-9
Typhoon IB
F4U-1C
N1K2
Bf 109K-4
Me 262
Spitfire Mk IX
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190A-5

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damn that was quick


and look at that...2 certified turny birds....

Who is this guy ^^^^^ 

 

[icepac]

How about testing a brewster vs a mustang in which the test involves a quick 180 at the edge of blackout and then record the mph of both?

[JunkyII]

Hello junkyii still on the island?

Yes sir, until November then I'm going to Fort Home

[dirtdart]

Done done?

I will decide this summer whether or not to retire.

Headed to Kuwait.... again... in less than a year.

[Zimme83]

Just had an interessting 1vs1 in a Brew vs a F4U-4. I had more alt on him at the beginning so i could dive on him and get on his 6. He pulled up in a rope and i followed him up, roughly the same speed initialy. He ended up about 600 yards above me but i got enough hits on him to hurt him bad. A top ace would prob have came down and killed me but on the other hand it showed that not even a U-4 is safe against a Brewster in a rope if they have the same speed to start with, The U-4 will get about 2000ft higher but that migh not be enough to prevent the Brewster from landing hits on u.

If its done over time im sure the -U4 will end up as a winner far more often than the Brew but the U-4 is not invincible and will get shot down sometimes.

[Kenne]

Just had an interessting 1vs1 in a Brew vs a F4U-4. I had more alt on him at the beginning so i could dive on him and get on his 6. He pulled up in a rope and i followed him up, roughly the same speed initialy. He ended up about 600 yards above me but i got enough hits on him to hurt him bad. A top ace would prob have came down and killed me but on the other hand it showed that not even a U-4 is safe against a Brewster in a rope if they have the same speed to start with, The U-4 will get about 2000ft higher but that migh not be enough to prevent the Brewster from landing hits on u.

If its done over time im sure the -U4 will end up as a winner far more often than the Brew but the U-4 is not invincible and will get shot down sometimes.

you ran out of airspeed following  this Brewster up?

[Zimme83]

No. My brewster ran out of speed followin the F4U up, but not before i shot him up.

[Devil 505]

No. My brewster ran out of speed followin the F4U up, but not before i shot him up.

F4U's have tail guns that I'm not aware of?

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No. My brewster ran out of speed followin the F4U up, but not before i shot him up.

 

this reminds me of my days flying the Hurri2c...

I killed some BnZer he types out on 200

"no way a Hurri can climb like that"

I said..."no....... but my quad 20's can"

[bustr]

Until I'm 1000 above a Brewster in a climb, spiral or straight. I sweat bullets. The BB dispersion at 800 is still small enough to cover a spit8 between the gun mountings in the wings. And Brewster pilots don't seem shy holding down on the trigger out to 800. The Brewster's guns are magical at pilot wounds and oil hits.

[Mar]

No. My brewster ran out of speed followin the F4U up, but not before i shot him up.

F4U's have tail guns that I'm not aware of?

 

[Rich46yo]

I think a few people got killed by Brewster's by putting themselves in bad situations and the sheer fact that such an inferior bird killed THEM is proof enough the Brew is over modeled.

The lesson learned is dont underestimate, like the Soviets did, what a agile bird with 4 0.50s, that can dive like a demon and then reconvert its energy, can do. A lightweight agile Buffalo? Why didnt we Yanks think of it?

[Zimme83]

I think a few people got killed by Brewster's by putting themselves in bad situations and the sheer fact that such an inferior bird killed THEM is proof enough the Brew is over modeled.

The lesson learned is dont underestimate, like the Soviets did, what a agile bird with 4 0.50s, that can dive like a demon and then reconvert its energy, can do. A lightweight agile Buffalo? Why didnt we Yanks think of it?

Absolutley, people belive that the can get away with anyhing aginst a plane like the Brewster. People must learn that a diving Brewster can be very dangerous until its speed has run out. Below 250 mph the Brewster bleeds of less energy in turns compare to most other planes thanks to the low wing loading and in extreme cases, like chasing a slow and turning pony or jug, u need to reduce throttle to avoid an overshoot.
If u want to beat a Brewster, just dont fight on his terms, or fly a Zeke.

[FLS]

Absolutley, people belive that the can get away with anyhing aginst a plane like the Brewster. People must learn that a diving Brewster can be very dangerous until its speed has run out. Below 250 mph the Brewster bleeds of less energy in turns compare to most other planes thanks to the low wing loading and in extreme cases, like chasing a slow and turning pony or jug, u need to reduce throttle to avoid an overshoot.
If u want to beat a Brewster, just dont fight on his terms, or fly a Zeke.

It doesn't bleed less energy, like the Zeke it just needs less energy to turn well.