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Offline Slade

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37,573 lbs?
« on: February 22, 2015, 09:59:37 AM »
Is it true that it only takes 37,573 lbs of ord to drop an HQ (1 set of Lancs, 29s)?

Why not just triple that, make it require a coordinated multi-bomber operation.  This would make the game more inclusive for both sides.  Otherwise you might was well allow Nukes LOL! jk

Or an ICBM as many HQ raiders I noticed bail right afterward.
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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 11:09:11 AM »
I hope on the update, they make it atleast 5 sets of bombers to down the HQ, and also they perk drones.

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 12:33:43 PM »
Couldn't the host just multiply the hardness of the HQT in the arena settings?  :huh
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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 12:35:33 PM »
Yes they can.  The issue I see maybe the fact that the maps are in a custom rotation system they created.  Simply changing the settings may screw with it.  That's the only thing I can think of. :headscratch:
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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2015, 02:32:41 PM »
Only 38,000 pounds of explosives to interrupt business at that building for 2 hours. 

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2015, 09:20:12 PM »
That's "up to 2 hours" with the caveat that city has to be pounded down first.

On many maps, it is closer to 11 minutes.

The clues are all there for an incoming HQ attack but the masses choose to ignore them.

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2015, 10:06:31 PM »
That's "up to 2 hours" with the caveat that city has to be pounded down first.

On many maps, it is closer to 11 minutes.

The clues are all there for an incoming HQ attack but the masses choose to ignore them.


Could be the masses are too busy playing and having fun

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 09:38:48 AM »
Gentlemen,

The brunt of this issue is not during prime time hours.  When you have 250+ players on you see things coming and can resupply fast enough.  Many of us have limited time each day and must log in during off peak hours.  Logging in to find you cant find a fight with the finite time you have to play the game is the issue for MANY of us.

I hope that clarifies this for those that are quick to say just resupply and the like.

Respectfully,

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 11:14:44 AM »
Slade there must be more than one of you annoyed by this when it happens. There is also more than one arena. I understand wanting to fight in LW but you do have options if you just want to fight someone.

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 03:49:25 PM »
I'd like to see formations for goons but only at the airfields near the HQ. Also the only thing they could carry from there would be fields sups.

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »
After years of wise sages telling people you have other choices of how or arenas to fight in. It seems unless Hitech comes up with a radical change in how he wants players to utilize the primary MA. Human nature trumps the insanity of repeating the same sage wisdom for all of these years. That human nature is also paying the light bill for HTC.

The other arenas are in essence specialized side shows, versus what most of the MA playing community is paying for. Since the problem exists in the primary MA, the solution is eventually up to HTC. It is becoming obvious some kind of toll is being levied upon a growing portion of the community. It's possible like any parent with a house full of boys, time more often allows these things to sort themselves out versus showing favoritism.

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2015, 04:50:29 AM »
 Bases still flash when the HQ is down. The argument that you can't find a fight with your limited time seems weak. It is more like you can't go into a fight with all the advantages you want to at all times.
 During the war all sides would have radar outages. That could take many resources to fix.
 Some guys spend a long time to set up their HQ bombruns, and are thus not killing other targets. Why should they not be rewarded with being able to fly home unmolested?
This is one of the last things I would change about AH.

P.S. I feel this is relevant because of the amount of HQ takedowns lately, and thus NOT a punt.  :bolt:
 
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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2015, 07:33:04 AM »
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Bases still flash when the HQ is down. ...The argument that you can't find a fight with your limited time seems weak. It is more like you can't go into a fight with all the advantages you want to at all times.

vHACKv you sound like you have a lot of experience with this.  I've been playing this game for about a decade.  When strats are down during off hours (and low numbers) when I see a base blinking I up immediately to find a fight.  Any fight.  My average alt at these times is between 5-10k.  Lately in an F6.  To get to a fight quickly I sometimes take a 109k though.  90% of the time I get there only to find no cons.

EDIT: I know you know that a base can blink because of a GV of course too.

vHACKv what am I doing wrong?
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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2015, 10:00:09 AM »
Bases still flash when the HQ is down. The argument that you can't find a fight with your limited time seems weak. It is more like you can't go into a fight with all the advantages you want to at all times.
 During the war all sides would have radar outages. That could take many resources to fix.
 Some guys spend a long time to set up their HQ bombruns, and are thus not killing other targets. Why should they not be rewarded with being able to fly home unmolested?
This is one of the last things I would change about AH.

P.S. I feel this is relevant because of the amount of HQ takedowns lately, and thus NOT a punt.  :bolt:

Again WE ARE NOT AT WAR!

This is a game of combat. First and foremost a game! We play to have fun, not jump around looking for a fight at flashing base like some internet game of wack a mole. Second, it's a game of COMBAT, not hide and seek.

The dar being taken out by a single player is ridiculous. Make it so a couple players have to work together to do it, much like it takes a number of players working together to bring it back up. 

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Re: 37,573 lbs?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2015, 10:19:15 AM »

Could be the masses are too busy playing and having fun

This.

Let's say, you are fighting at A49 and the alert goes out that A52 is about to get clobbered.  You could keep fighting at A49 and ignore A52.  either way, you have a fight.

But, if you are fighting at A49 and the alert goes out that HQ is about to get clobbered, you could bail out and try to save the HQ.  Of course while you were busy having a fun fight attacking or defending (the whole purpose of the game), you didn't notice the impending NOE attack on HQ.  You arrive too late and the HQ goes down.  Now there are bases flashing but no way to tell why, without looking out the tower windows and hoping you see something.

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