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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2015, 12:40:14 PM »
Someone's ego is getting a little big for their britches.

After the month I had last month, yes my ego is pretty big  :devil I have a full list of accomplishments from last month alone, not even including some of my other best months in AH.

But this ego here will back up the statements in the virtual flight arenas of AH. I have no problem proving that.

I simply played devils advocate about furball towns in the MA maps. In that they are pointless to the structure of the MA. No one other than the OP, who is still new to the game, has given any valid reasons as to how a furball town would benefit them or other players. Like I said, I would even be apart of the furball town most of the time, but it also wouldn't be very good for many players because they would get shot down just as quickly, which doesn't make it anymore exciting than it is now for them, in which case practice, skill level, and plane choice have to do with your performance regardless of how the arena is planned out - to an extent.
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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2015, 12:43:26 PM »
Toad's point about your opinion was that it doesn't trump everyone else's opinion. That's what you can't accept.

This. Exactly this.

Additionally, Hitech pointed out that winning the war isn't any more special than just furballing. The various aspects of the game exist solely to produce fun. No one aspect is any more valid than any other.

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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2015, 01:55:51 PM »
This. Exactly this.

Additionally, Hitech pointed out that winning the war isn't any more special than just furballing. The various aspects of the game exist solely to produce fun. No one aspect is any more valid than any other.

Typical response from someone who doesn't understand the dynamic of furballing in AH, and then defames a credible opinion who has knowledge, skill, and experience whose sole enjoyment is furballing in AH. And then doesn't  provide any logical based information to how a furball island would benefit the player base to AH.

It's like taking the opinion of a stock holder compared to the opinion of a person who actually works for the company. The stock holder has all this outside information about the perception of the company. But really in truly, has no idea what is going on. Where as the insider who works there and is actually involved with the success of the company knows exactly what is going to happen. Whose opinion would you believe then?

Like I said, I am simply challenging this idea based off experience and understanding to how furballs are created and why there is an issue with fight density within AH. I believe that my "opinion" on this specific topic trumps yours.

And that is the bottom line because Stone Cold Steve Austin says so.
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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2015, 02:01:23 PM »
To use your example, would you consider Hitech, whose opinion Toad quotes, a company insider?

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« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2015, 02:15:41 PM »
To use your example, would you consider Hitech, whose opinion Toad quotes, a company insider?

The quote even contradicts Hitechs own opinion (no offense) to only one part of the issue, by not being able to change sides every 12 hours.  What is the point of that other than to keep teams situated on a war based strategy. Or you are taking his words out of context, it is probably not even about FI.   
Fun is the main option but the game dynamic strategy is the other option.

Explain to me what would happen when team A completely dominates team B and C in the furball island. All those other players are going to be sitting in the tower complaining about hoards and pickers, while also not going to another field to benefit any part of the strategize war effort because there will be no fights there either. They will sit in the tower and still be bored while not even unknowingly help the team by upping from another base and killing a bomber raid, for example.

Y'all only see the small light to the issue,  Not the actual problem that persist to the reason why fights have been so much smaller. IE, the length of the base distance. I don't really understand why many of you wouldn't agree with me besides Oldman. Your furballs would be extravagant and you would be apart of the MA strategy as a whole thereby creating a fun competitive atmosphere for all styles of fighting.
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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #66 on: March 09, 2015, 02:52:40 PM »
Typical response from someone who doesn't understand the dynamic of furballing in AH, and then defames a credible opinion who has knowledge, skill, and experience whose sole enjoyment is furballing in AH. And then doesn't  provide any logical based information to how a furball island would benefit the player base to AH.


You make it sound like you're the only one that understands the "dynamics of furballing", which I find kind of funny since some of the people you're arguing have been playing AH (and other combat flight sims) a heck of a lot longer than you have.  Hell, I've been playing these games probably since before you were born and TOAD being the old fart he is, probably has been playing longer than I have.  There is nothing you can teach us about the "dynamics of furballing" that we already don't know, Hell, we've probably forgotten more than you'll know.

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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2015, 02:57:47 PM »
I'm guessing we don't share your vision because our perspective is different. I believe Toad quoted Hitech appropriately.

I see no benefit in making up hypothetical scenarios where imaginary players validate our theories. Your opinion is clear, others disagree.


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« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2015, 03:06:42 PM »
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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2015, 03:13:17 PM »
I'm guessing we don't share your vision because our perspective is different. I believe Toad quoted Hitech appropriately.

I see no benefit in making up hypothetical scenarios where imaginary players validate our theories. Your opinion is clear, others disagree.

You can disagree with my opinion all you want buy stating "I disagree" but providing no indication to an ideal that you think is better does not discredit my opinion, but more so makes you look silly.

At what point do you disagree, and why? If you think a furball Island would benefit the game.. Please explain, rather than discrediting my opinion with ancedotal evidence that may or may not even be part of the same type of conversation.

And for the record, percieving hypothetical situations is what planning is all about. I practically know this situation will happen time and time again as I have seen it happen time and time again...
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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2015, 03:24:53 PM »
furball island on every map wont make a bit of difference...

I have wanted the same exact thing for years...I love the 3 way fight...always thought there should be an area with that on every map...

but after 10 years of playing pretty much in fighter mode only....

the majority do not care about the fight....all they want is to roll bases undefended....win a war that is the same exact thing over and over...


the ones that say dog fighting is the same thing over and over just don't understand the dogfight itself....

every single fight is different...you will never be in the same fight twice...you will never be able to make that one move capable of killing everyone all the time...unlike dropping bombs...


I do think it would hurt the game now..the war winners hate the fact that some people just do not care about the war....
it would cause even more separation of the 2 types of players.

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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2015, 03:33:02 PM »
You can disagree with my opinion all you want buy stating "I disagree" but providing no indication to an ideal that you think is better does not discredit my opinion, but more so makes you look silly.

At what point do you disagree, and why? If you think a furball Island would benefit the game.. Please explain, rather than discrediting my opinion with ancedotal evidence that may or may not even be part of the same type of conversation.

And for the record, percieving hypothetical situations is what planning is all about. I practically know this situation will happen time and time again as I have seen it happen time and time again...

Where did I discredit your opinion? You went off the rails when you first thought Toad was attacking you. People are expressing opinions that are different than yours.  Accept the fact that people often disagree. It's not a contest. Nobody is going to change their minds because you keep arguing that you're right and everybody else is wrong. If you think your position is obviously correct then time will tell and save you the trouble.

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Re: Dedicated Furball fields in every MA arena?
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2015, 03:33:16 PM »
....win a war that is the same exact thing over and over...


the ones that say dog fighting is the same thing over and over just don't understand the dogfight itself....


Any maybe the ones saying fighting the war is exact the same thing over and over aren't understanding that thing either? ;)



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« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2015, 04:11:12 PM »

Any maybe the ones saying fighting the war is exact the same thing over and over aren't understanding that thing either? ;)

well seeings how building's...don't move and try to get out of the way of your bombs....


the moment they do....they will be correct.... ;)

just because one can have an opinion...does not make it correct....

but I would be more then willing to read how bombing and taking towns and winning the war is different each map....