Author Topic: Where Are The Scenarios?  (Read 806 times)

Offline MrLars

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« on: October 25, 2001, 04:37:00 AM »
An honest question. I participated in Afrika42 and had a blast, even though I was just a ground pounder in a tank, but there haven't been any since. I don't know the particulars of why or if there are or aren't any scenarios in the works but ...um...inquiring minds ya know  :D

What I do know is that there are a ton of AW vets that keept an AW account solely for the scenarios, and the numbers they attracted were fantastic. Those same people are taking a serious look at AH right now but the lack of scenarios on the calendar certanly isn't helping them with their decision to subscribe, that hopefully will be different in the very near future.

Can someone puleese toss me a clue rake?

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2001, 05:17:00 AM »
I kept my Warbirds account for 1 year more just to fly the Sunday evening's Scenarios Lite. The WB MA was boring after 2 years (for me) but actually I *did* enjoy those 2 weekly hours of playing.

The main problem here is the lack of a good early-mid war plane set. This problem is strictly connected to scenarios, the biggest (and most interesting, imho) part of WB SL's were 1940-43 based. However, I believe that HTC will move in that direction soon (could be 2 new early-mid aircraft every 1 late war one).

We only need P-40, Ju87, F4F, A6M2/3, Val, Dauntless, Blenheims, Lagg, more Yak ... Oh My!  :)

[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: gatt ]
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2001, 05:20:00 AM »
Mr Larz,
       I assure you that there are scenario's in the progress of being created. Also remind you that there are the TOD's and other sunday scenario's that we run. But full grown scenario's are on the way.

You will see   :)

BT

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2001, 07:17:00 AM »
One of the current BEST scenarios I've been in, from AW to WB's to AH...is the Tour of Duty currently running.  Its a campaign that stretches 3 frames, is squad invite (You apply at TOD page) and walk ons can sign up BEFORE the event via the TOD page.

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2001, 07:28:00 AM »
Want to make a CM's life interesting? Everytime he starts getting a handle on things slip in a major new update that changes terrain, strat system, new features, etc.  :)

Scenario's are in the works. Eastern front is planned, but waiting for needed planes. IE stuka, 110, russian bombers.

Staff is currently in the design phase for what could be AH's biggest & best scenario yet. However we need a terrain, preferably one thats  1.08 compliant.

All that takes time.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2001, 07:41:00 AM »
Id like to check out some scenerios, havnet seen any being played as of now. I had a hell of a time in the TOD, ive never had a game give me such a rush as i did when fighting in the tour.

Are the scenerios also one life events?

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2001, 07:59:00 AM »
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Are the scenerios also one life events?

Yes, exception might be the Check Six events, which typically allow you a life per 30 min. or a "goal" where multiple lives can be used.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2001, 09:15:00 AM »
I thought you guys had a terrain committee.  Have you talked to Nuttz about building you one?  I'm sure if ya asked real nice he'd oblige  :)

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Staff is currently in the design phase for what could be AH's biggest & best scenario yet. However we need a terrain, preferably one thats  1.08 compliant.

All that takes time.

Offline AN

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2001, 09:36:00 AM »
Ghosth:
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Want to make a CM's life interesting? Everytime he starts getting a handle on things slip in a major new update that changes terrain, strat system, new features, etc.   :)
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Wow, the last time I was on this board I posted about scenarios, and was assured that the only thing holding up the next multi-frame scenario was the wait *for* 1.08.

Now, I see that the wait is *because* of 1.08.

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Scenario's are in the works. Eastern front is planned, but waiting for needed planes. IE stuka, 110, russian bombers.
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Then do something that doesn't need the stuka, 110, russian bombers, etc.  

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Staff is currently in the design phase for what could be AH's biggest & best scenario yet. However we need a terrain, preferably one thats  1.08 compliant.
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Still waiting on the stuff that's 'just around the corner'.  Here's a clue--HTC is a great company and stuff will be coming along on a constant basis for a long time.  If you keep waiting for the next big thing that's on the way, then you'll *never* have any scenarios.

Sounds wierd, but AW had little or no promise of ever having any improvements made to the game, but had *lots* of scenarios-- created by people who were willing to make do with what they had.

In AH, the people who are making the scenarios just seem (to me) to want to play with the new toys coming out, and don't seem to have much interest in putting out scenarios.  If there was *really* interest in scenarios, then there would *be* scenarios.

Damn.  Just stop by to see what's going on, since a lot of my Bigweek friends talking about trying out AH.  What happens?  I start squeaking again.

~Sigh~

anRky
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2001, 10:12:00 AM »
Believe me, the CM crew are trying to get something done. And there really is no lack of events. The TOD is running just about every week, with a week or two break between tours...

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2001, 10:21:00 AM »
One of the things that could be done is to utilize aircraft that are in the current plane sets to simulate what you want to run. It's been done successfuly as far back at 10 years ago in AW. Yes you will offend the "purists" but you will get events going faster.

Let the players who are interested and have the desire to design and run scenarios have some of the first hand experience of what the CM crew has to deal with.

You can recycle proven scenario ideas like DoK GoNzO's Battle of Germany, revamp it a bit to fit the terrain we have in the game today and run it. http://www.cris.com/~Msmiller/AW/scenarios/bog2/bog2_desc.html

Scenarios appeal to a lot of players but not nearly all of them. Making mid size to small scenarios that run 6 frames over the course of 2 weeks every few months would help a lot. If the current CM staff doesn't have the manpower to support these events then I'd suggest you start recruiting from the people that really want to see these things go.

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »
Good post and ideas SB.

 In the last few years I saved up every scenario write up I could find. Most of DoK's and quite a few of the 1996 on up AW events (untill 1999). A lot of detail and explanations behind the settings and use of aircraft.

 DoK consolidated his stuff on a new web page btw.
 http://www.gonzoville.com/DoK/index.shtml

 Nothing beats a DoK scenario. Fletchman and Brooke had real good ones too but DoK is still The King. I hope this info and any I can share could help.

 I need a scenario fix....and soon!   :)


   Westy


p.s. I think it's about time for DoK's MARIANAS scenario to be tried. We have the tools for that one except for a few Japanese planes. If we get the Peggy we can do it even without a Val, Judy or a Betty.

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2001, 11:08:00 AM »
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In AH, the people who are making the scenarios just seem (to me) to want to play with the new toys coming out, and don't seem to have much interest in putting out scenarios. If there was *really* interest in scenarios, then there would *be* scenarios.

Grrrrrr...
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2001, 11:46:00 AM »
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Originally posted by hblair:
Believe me, the CM crew are trying to get something done. And there really is no lack of events. The TOD is running just about every week, with a week or two break between tours...


yeah, TOD is really cool when you work on Friday Nights. Lets see a Sunday TOD.

And as I recall thier hasnt been a Sunday event in a while.

I think AN was completley right on in his statement.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2001, 11:48:00 AM »
AN don't let that door hit you in the bellybutton on the way out.  Buh-Bye.

There are great scenarios every Friday night.  http://events.simladder.com/tod.php