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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2015, 10:05:58 AM »
so let me ask this? if we turned the AVA into a 2 sided war with all planes enabled.... would people use it?

There would only be a chance when also all the icon settings would be just like in the MA... and the LW MA would be closed for a week or two... 'cause numbers draw numbers.

Only in this case there would be a slight chance...
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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2015, 10:06:44 AM »
so let me ask this? if we turned the AVA into a 2 sided war with all planes enabled.... would people use it?

If you also include standard icon range, ENY, perked planes and 1 hour side switching? 

Yes, I would like to try that out.  :cheers:


Try it out one day per week in the AVA and see what happens.
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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2015, 10:22:07 AM »
Nope. The draw is the MAIN arena, always has been always will be. If they closed the main arena for a week people would move to were "the rest of the players are" whether that is AvA or Mid-war at that point only the execution of the test would tell.
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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2015, 11:37:12 AM »


The 'quote' says it all. Why are you 'here', really? Honestly, I'm all for those who continue to post here without flying as long as it isn't 'Waaaah, here's why I don't like the game I don't play anymore! Waaaaaaah, it's all broke and stuff and whatever.'

Anything positive from you might be appreciated. Anything. Geez, you even got me agreeing with Semp.

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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2015, 11:49:00 AM »
You are ignoring this user. 

(I know what he says without reading it.  Definitely a leghump of HTC for sure.  No surprise there.)

You may quit stalking me any time, creepo.

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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2015, 11:54:09 AM »
You are ignoring this user. 


You may quit stalking me at any time, creepo.

You aren't ignoring someone if you are reading and replying to all their posts :rofl
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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2015, 11:56:09 AM »
You aren't ignoring someone if you are reading and replying to all their posts :rofl

I don't read a word of his tripe.  Thank goodness for the ignore feature.  But he chases me all over these boards like a serial killer.  A bit odd. 
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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2015, 11:59:37 AM »
I don't read a word of his tripe.  Thank goodness for the ignore feature.  But he chases me all over these boards like a serial killer.  A bit odd.


Lol you don't read a word of what he says, yet you think he's addressing you?
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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2015, 12:06:59 PM »
The 'quote' says it all. Why are you 'here', really? Honestly, I'm all for those who continue to post here without flying as long as it isn't 'Waaaah, here's why I don't like the game I don't play anymore! Waaaaaaah, it's all broke and stuff and whatever.'

Anything positive from you might be appreciated. Anything. Geez, you even got me agreeing with Semp.

Well ARLO - let me introduce you to the truth. Really, I am here for the fighter on fighter experience.

The reality is (it may not be positive) is that in the 'off' hours there are simply not enough people in game to generate a fight <fighter combat>.  The map is too big for the numbers in game and the truth is that we can fly for 2 hours and find 4 people to fight.

So, you want me to post here without a Waaaaa?  Nah, waaaaaa is warranted.

PS.  The more this happens the more of us log off and never log on again.  Heads up to you, the fan boys and AH..... THIS IS NOT WORKING NOW!!!!  2015 is a different beast than when AH was created.  I think it is a great game but I see massive cracks in the game that means it is moving away from what the subscriber base wants.  Add to that, other options in the market place are free to play then you may begin to understand why many of us have moved to other games and more of us are seriously looking at other options.

Sure, I am a dikhead, my opinion is to be disregarded and ridiculed....but,  I am one of many.  Today I saw the HQ go down again....60 players in game.  Finding a fight became hard.  Result?  Log off!!!

Is that really what you want?  Really?  I mean sit back and think about it......really?  If so, you are getting your wish, we are logging off and we are not engaging with the game.....we are looking at other options.......Is that a Waaaahhhhh or is that reality.

Take a good hard look before it bites you in the rear end and the game is done!!!
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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2015, 12:22:36 PM »
Well truth is surely subjective. Does 'truth' require a defensive stance?

1. The DA still exists.

2. How players choose to play or not play with the toys provided has never been HT's fault (if you feel that statement is wrong then you need to provide more than 'more are logging off and never logging back on' and how the 'differences in the game design' are truly at fault and not just perceived by you to be.)

3. Again, if all you can do is whine-post without making truly productive suggestions (realizing that many of those suggestions may be things the players can do and really doesn't involve a 'broken game') then of course you aren't going to be taken seriously by players who don't share in a personality of self-persecution.

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« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2015, 12:31:37 PM »


Lol you don't read a word of what he says, yet you think he's addressing you?

Why would he reply behind every post of mine (spanning multiple threads) in a span of minutes only to  address someone else?  I will go with the percentages there. Nice try.
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« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2015, 12:36:42 PM »
Well ARLO - let me introduce you to the truth. Really, I am here for the fighter on fighter experience.

The reality is (it may not be positive) is that in the 'off' hours there are simply not enough people in game to generate a fight <fighter combat>.  The map is too big for the numbers in game and the truth is that we can fly for 2 hours and find 4 people to fight.

So, you want me to post here without a Waaaaa?  Nah, waaaaaa is warranted.

PS.  The more this happens the more of us log off and never log on again.  Heads up to you, the fan boys and AH..... THIS IS NOT WORKING NOW!!!!  2015 is a different beast than when AH was created.  I think it is a great game but I see massive cracks in the game that means it is moving away from what the subscriber base wants.  Add to that, other options in the market place are free to play then you may begin to understand why many of us have moved to other games and more of us are seriously looking at other options.

Sure, I am a dikhead, my opinion is to be disregarded and ridiculed....but,  I am one of many.  Today I saw the HQ go down again....60 players in game.  Finding a fight became hard.  Result?  Log off!!!

Is that really what you want?  Really?  I mean sit back and think about it......really?  If so, you are getting your wish, we are logging off and we are not engaging with the game.....we are looking at other options.......Is that a Waaaahhhhh or is that reality.

Take a good hard look before it bites you in the rear end and the game is done!!!

Well said, Fess.  But you are debating an ostrich in regard to A---.   Some people will never get it. 

Major props to you and what you wrote. Absolutely spot on.  :salute
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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2015, 12:46:37 PM »
Why would he reply behind every post of mine (spanning multiple threads) in a span of minutes only to  address someone else?  I will go with the percentages there. Nice try.

It's not a 'try.' It's been recognized that to you 'ignore' is posting the equivalent of 'I'm ignoring you' over and over. That's not really 'ignore' at all. Either converse or don't. That doesn't mean others gave up on commenting on your posts. Hell, even if you beat the odds and posted something worthwhile then someone you're 'ignoring' might say so.  :aok

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« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2015, 12:49:04 PM »
Let me guess.   He is NOT talking about me.

I will take stalkers for fifty, Alex.
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Re: 2 sided war arena
« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2015, 12:50:07 PM »
Well truth is surely subjective. Does 'truth' require a defensive stance?

1. The DA still exists.

2. How players choose to play or not play with the toys provided has never been HT's fault (if you feel that statement is wrong then you need to provide more than 'more are logging off and never logging back on' and how the 'differences in the game design' are truly at fault and not just perceived by you to be.)



Allow me a general word on this matter.

Well apart from the fact that I'm here for battles, not duels.... Things don't work like this, unfortunately.
I can control only my actions, and when the DA is empty (which it always is during off hours) it wont help when I go there. The other 10-30 active players won't follow me. Been there, done that in different constellations over the years in AH.

Any 'solution' that doesn't accept the realities of human nature and just ask for a major change of behaviour of the population as a whole does not work.
That's what you got gameplay mechanisms and rules for (just like ENY, perks, or killshooter). "We" can't to the work of the game designer.




As far as actual proposals go:

- Change the HQ (has been commented on by HT in another thread)

- Take the large maps out of rotation until the numbers allow for them again
(They had been introduced at a much higher population which was very much increasing at those times. And remember how they were taken out of the game after the big arena split, only to be returned for Titanic Tuesdays exclusively?)

- Reduce the sideswitch time limit. Doesn't have to be as low as one hour, even something like four might help.

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