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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2015, 12:12:00 PM »
But no worry folks, Patriots have signed free agent QB Jon Grady for a 4 game contract.  :rofl
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2015, 01:00:40 PM »
They got caught because they are good.


It's not just sour grapes.  They cheated.  Period.

Of course the guy at the top is going to have his performance questioned.  If the guy at the top is not playing by the rules, then yes that will get him caught.

In motorcycle roadracing,  I never ever cheated.  The system used was a "protest" system.  If you thought the other guy had a machine outside of the class specifications, you were required to put a $500.00 cash deposit on the table.  You had to protest something specific.  If you protested any internal engine component, you had to put $1000.00 cash on the table.  The bike under protest was impounded.  The team under protest was required to dismantle whatever was needed to show that they were in compliance.  If the protested bike is determined to be in compliance, the team that had that bike then picked up the money off the table and put it in their pocket.  If you wanted to protest, you had to "put up, or shut up".  If the bike was out of compliance. the person that put the protest money up, picked the money back off the table.  The offending team/bike/rider had ALL of their points negated for the season and had to return all purse money won.

I liked the system.  I never actually protested anyone myself, but guess what.  I was the guy that was winning.  I didn't pay attention to what they were doing to battle for second place.

One year, we got a 7th place at the AMA superbike race in Pike's Peak.  My teammate was the rider.  Now 7th place is not the position's that were normally protested, but in this case, he had beaten the entire Factory USA, HRC racing team.  We walked our bike to the impound area and I had a folder with a stack of receipts.  I showed the HRC team manager the receipts for $100,000.00 in HRC parts we had bought from them.  I told them, "We would prefer not to tear this engine down right here.  Would you like to withdraw your protest and pick up your $1000.00?".  He said, "That is exactly what I would like, thank you".  As he was walking away with his head mechanic he said to him, "Maybe you can explain how a privateer team, that bought their equipment from us, on the same bike, built a faster motor?"     .......................silenc e.............

Maybe a cash protest system would work in the NFL.  You make the public announcement of the protest and keep everything out in the open.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2015, 01:16:11 PM »
I can't believe that the league doesn't supply the ball for every game, with neither team having access prior.

The ball should be a constant.

I'm sure it happens all of the time, these bozos just got caught.

Just put an asterisk in the record books, just like they should do with the roid-heads in baseball.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2015, 06:56:49 PM »
They got caught because they are good. Just sour grapes from other teams.

Agree BuckShot, the balls should be league balls not team balls.

Off hand I don't know of any other sport where teams use their own balls.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2015, 07:10:18 PM »
 :rofl :rofl


I dont understand the fanatical following sports fans have.


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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2015, 07:32:46 PM »
:rofl :rofl


I dont understand the fanatical following sports fans have.

Agreed.

Although I do like RotBarons idea, just put a little asterisk next to his name when he gets into the hall of fame   
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2015, 07:41:30 PM »
Blame the NFL for the continued behavior from the players. Until the Commissioner grows a pair this kind of thing will continue to happen.

They have/had; someone that arranges/hosts dog fights, a wife beater, a child beater, numerous rule breakers, and even a murderer! Instead of giving the NFL more publicity the populace should stop watching games, buying merchandise, and attending any events hosted by the NFL. Until that happens, the fan base is to blame almost as much as Goddell.

I dont understand the fanatical following sports fans have.

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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2015, 08:23:53 PM »
Usually I hate the -gate things...Iran-Contragage, Benghazigate, the whole raft of them.  But the reaction to the Patriots thing really does bring me back to 1973:

"Hey, they all do it, he just got caught."

"He would have won anyway, what's the big deal?"

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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2015, 08:29:49 PM »
From NESN, so they're not neutral, but kinda gets at the heart of how stupid this all is:

http://nesn.com/2015/05/five-biggest-issues-with-evidence-against-patriots-in-wells-report/
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2015, 09:29:30 PM »
Just a tidbit of useless info:  All NFL footballs are made in a small hick town in Ohio not too far from me, of all places.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2015, 10:01:02 PM »
Read the following:

[quoteThe report, prepared by attorney Ted Wells, found that "it is more probable than not" that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was "at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities" of locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski, who has been with the team since 2001][/quote]

Since when is it ok to judge someone on the scale of "more probable than not"?  Sorry, but the way the real world works, "beyond a shadow of a doubt" is the standard to which all men and women are judged.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2015, 10:14:28 PM »
Read the following:

Since when is it ok to judge someone on the scale of "more probable than not"?  Sorry, but the way the real world works, "beyond a shadow of a doubt" is the standard to which all men and women are judged.

Not everywhere. There are some places where guilty until proven innocent is the norm...and not necessarily repressive countries either. That being said, this isn't a court of law, and like the Black Sox or Pete Rose, suspicion is enough.


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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2015, 10:18:41 PM »
Not everywhere. There are some places where guilty until proven innocent is the norm...and not necessarily repressive countries either. That being said, this isn't a court of law, and like the Black Sox or Pete Rose, suspicion is enough.

This is the US.  It is a US game.  Sorry, but it is a face saving measure because the NFL leadership botched the Domestic Abuse situation so badly. 
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2015, 10:52:19 PM »
From NESN, so they're not neutral, but kinda gets at the heart of how stupid this all is:

http://nesn.com/2015/05/five-biggest-issues-with-evidence-against-patriots-in-wells-report/

Very interesting post.

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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2015, 11:40:33 PM »
So, the kid in the room watching the adults get all worked up over this, says...

"Why not get rid of that stupid rule and let the QB pick his own pressure?  Its fair if they all do it, right?"
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