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Offline BowHTR

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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2015, 11:39:11 AM »
Maybe YOu should reread the OP. "Rooks were flying any thing they wanted and without the tower guys, we would have given them a pretty high eny." So it's ok as long as the high ENY is on the other teams' sides, I guess.....

Reset the map just because there are people in the tower and you can't fly you low ENY plane? BAH! Play or quit.

Again, reread the post. Par has nothing wrong with ENY on his side. He has a problem with the tower sitters.

Better yet, dont worry about it. You dont play anymore as it is.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2015, 11:55:51 AM »
Again, reread the post. Par has nothing wrong with ENY on his side. He has a problem with the tower sitters.

Better yet, dont worry about it. You dont play anymore as it is.
You're right. Par has no problem with ENY on his side, he has a problem that ENY isn't high on THEIR side. The statement I quoted from his post says exactly that. I'm not playing right now, because I had gotten to the point that I played too much. The biggest detractors to this game are the perennial complainers, of which there are many. I know, I used to be one, until I realized that MY ENJOYMENT IS DEPENDENT ON ME, NOT OTHERS. It's the same way in life. If YOU want keep blaming others, go ahead, you'll never really enjoy the game.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 12:09:56 PM »
You're right. Par has no problem with ENY on his side, he has a problem that ENY isn't high on THEIR side. The statement I quoted from his post says exactly that. I'm not playing right now, because I had gotten to the point that I played too much. The biggest detractors to this game are the perennial complainers, of which there are many. I know, I used to be one, until I realized that MY ENJOYMENT IS DEPENDENT ON ME, NOT OTHERS. It's the same way in life. If YOU want keep blaming others, go ahead, you'll never really enjoy the game.

I enjoy the game just fine, and have since 2002. Again, par has a problem that due to tower sitters on his side, there isn't a higher ENY on the enemy's side. I think par has the right to voice his opinion on this matter. Go back through his posts, he has never complained about anything in game before, and even if he did, he has just as much right to do so as the others do.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 01:28:59 PM »
Obviously, you're just not going to be happy unless you defend someone who is complaining that his side's eny is higher than anther sides. So be it. Your last statement just said that he was unhappy because the OTHER side's ENY wasn't higher. If they had LESS people in the tower( since tower or flight doesn't effect ENY, it's number of people) their ENY would allow BETTER planes for fewer perks, of more LOW ENY planes to be flown. Think about it. If side A has 100 people, either IN tower or in FLIGHT, and side B had 50 people either in tower or in flight...WHO has the ability to fly better planes. SOOOOOO, if you boot their tower huggers, YOUR ENY gets WORSE, not better. They have EVEN LESS players, which means you FURTHER restrict your ability to fly low ENY planes.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 01:51:36 PM »
*Insert face palm*

"Obviously, you're just not going to be happy unless you defend someone who is complaining that his side's eny is higher than anther sides. So be it." Again, Par isn't complaining about his ENY being higher than another countries ENY.

"Obviously, you're just not going to be happy unless you defend someone who is complaining that his side's eny is higher than anther sides. So be it. Your last statement just said that he was unhappy because the OTHER side's ENY wasn't higher." Contradiction?


With what you said:
"Think about it. If side A has 100 people, either IN tower or in FLIGHT, and side B had 50 people either in tower or in flight...WHO has the ability to fly better planes. SOOOOOO, if you boot their tower huggers, YOUR ENY gets WORSE, not better. They have EVEN LESS players, which means you FURTHER restrict your ability to fly low ENY planes."

Country A: 100 people.
Country B:50 people.

Country A has a higher ENY. Country B gets higher perk bonus and lower perk cost. But your missing the point.

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Country 1 has 50 people in flight and 50 in tower; 100 players
Country 2 has 90 people in flight and 10 in  tower; 100 players

There is no ENY due to the same amount of players. If the tower sitters were to log off, then country 2 would have ENY.

The original complaint was that a country was getting rolled by another country that had double the amount of players in flight; but there was no ENY due to the people sitting in the tower. If the people in the tower on country 1 would log off, then there would be an ENY on country 2. Thus making it more difficult for them to effectively and easily roll bases.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2015, 02:25:03 PM »
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 02:40:18 PM »
Who cares about ENY??? all the good planes are 25 eny and above LOL....No but seriously some players keep the game logged on for no reason. It really doesnt hurt to log off and log back in when you are ready to play. To Be Honest I usually keep the game running also like when i need to shower, grab a bite or even on a beer run. I really need to log off when I feel like I'm gonna be afk for more than 15 minutes. HTC should disconnect Any players being inactive for more than 15 minutes in the tower. :aok

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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2015, 02:44:08 PM »
And yet, what you complain about is exactly what many inactive tower sitters are doing to the active players just to get war win points.
If they have to do that for perks then that is sad. The best way is to not fly perk planes. Learn some acm.

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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2015, 02:45:20 PM »
Who cares about ENY??? all the good planes are 25 eny and above LOL....No but seriously some players keep the game logged on for no reason. It really doesnt hurt to log off and log back in when you are ready to play. To Be Honest I usually keep the game running also like when i need to shower, grab a bite or even on a beer run. I really need to log off when I feel like I'm gonna be afk for more than 15 minutes. HTC should disconnect Any players being inactive for more than 15 minutes in the tower. :aok

Honestly, I'd be fine if it was auto disconnect after 30min or an hour. I understand that things come up. That's life. And its not that hard to double click Late War arena after someone has been auto disconnected. No need to disconnect someone all the way, just to the lobby.
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2015, 05:09:35 PM »
What the hell is "eny"?

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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2015, 05:57:06 PM »
I guess it wasn't as clearly defined as I had hoped? I have no desire to change the eny or any other aspect of Aces High. I wasn't even complaining about being pummeled to oblivion(as I enjoy giving one myself). Yes I do understand that tower sitting happens for a myriad of reasons, I was in the tower each time I checked the roster counts, and waiting for a VH to come up at that particular V base. The thing I was trying to get at were the number of guys in-active sitting in a tower. I checked several times in the course of a couple hours. The smallest number in the tower during this time was 33. It went as high as 46 on a couple occasions as well, several at same tower I was in. Vh comes up, roll out, get killed by bombs taking out Vh, repeat. Luckily the hangers were all out of sinc, otherwise I would have needed to change towers lol. As I stated in my earlier post, it happens on all sides at most times and cool,I get that, but in this "particular" incident the side balancing effect of having an ENY would have been helpful. It probably wouldn't have helped me out as much as I am still developing my acm. I don't have a problem with getting killed at all, in fact I am quite proficient at it, but it could have enabled a strat attack with no ME 163 interlopers for example. My point was just that maybe being conscious of the situation before sitting in the tower for extended time. To me it is more like pulling a gv up to someone in a spawn camp situation and leaving my engine on then taking a lot of needless range shots, thus giving the guy next to me away, and getting him killed. I already know I am gonna get it but why kill him as well? Was just an observation of that moment in time. Thanks for the feed back guys it was appreciated. 
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2015, 06:01:43 PM »
as long as they put the dam kettle on and aren't spying with their multiple accounts who gives what the tower sitters are doing!!! 
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2015, 06:42:49 PM »
Spies are everywhere...... :noid
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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2015, 09:32:12 PM »
I guess it wasn't as clearly defined as I had hoped? I have no desire to change the eny or any other aspect of Aces High. I wasn't even complaining about being pummeled to oblivion(as I enjoy giving one myself). Yes I do understand that tower sitting happens for a myriad of reasons, I was in the tower each time I checked the roster counts, and waiting for a VH to come up at that particular V base. The thing I was trying to get at were the number of guys in-active sitting in a tower. I checked several times in the course of a couple hours. The smallest number in the tower during this time was 33. It went as high as 46 on a couple occasions as well, several at same tower I was in. Vh comes up, roll out, get killed by bombs taking out Vh, repeat. Luckily the hangers were all out of sinc, otherwise I would have needed to change towers lol. As I stated in my earlier post, it happens on all sides at most times and cool,I get that, but in this "particular" incident the side balancing effect of having an ENY would have been helpful. It probably wouldn't have helped me out as much as I am still developing my acm. I don't have a problem with getting killed at all, in fact I am quite proficient at it, but it could have enabled a strat attack with no ME 163 interlopers for example. My point was just that maybe being conscious of the situation before sitting in the tower for extended time. To me it is more like pulling a gv up to someone in a spawn camp situation and leaving my engine on then taking a lot of needless range shots, thus giving the guy next to me away, and getting him killed. I already know I am gonna get it but why kill him as well? Was just an observation of that moment in time. Thanks for the feed back guys it was appreciated.


Yours was a fair observation, par, I'm not sure why some people had issues with it. I'd also like tower sitters to be ejected to the lobby after X # of minutes, but I'm sure there are problems with that solution or it'd've been put in place by now.
Most of us are adults, and a lot (not most) act like it lol. A little consideration toward your comrades who might be denied the plane they wanted because you didn't bother to log off when you knew you'd be afk a while? Is that too much to ask?

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Re: tower etiquette?
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2015, 09:34:52 PM »
A very large percentage of players never post on bbs so I would imagine nearly as many don't read it. To them (and me) it's just a game. We log in for fun when we have the time. Sometimes we get pulled away mid game. sometimes for a minute but then it gets longer. This happened to me on Friday night. I went away for ten minutes and returned after three hours, logged off and went to sleep.
You just have to roll with it. I've been on plenty with eny in both directions and always found something I wanted to fly that would help in the situation I was in. I have no doubt they would have done the same and rolled you in p40's. Eny barely slows the horde.
I would bet that somewhere else on the map at that exact moment, your lower numbers side had a green blob at some base. It is what it is. Just enjoy it your way and don't allow other's game play to influence your's.

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