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Offline Volron

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2015, 04:38:18 PM »
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No.  The current system in place is better than what you have described.  We had something like that in the past and it didn't work well, with people "kill stealing" (I've had it happen more than a few times).  Have better aim (for the record, I couldn't hit the ground with my hat in 3 tries), or choose a plane with a bigger punch. :)

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Conversely, shouldn't the guy who gets shot by all those hand holders get perks instead?  You want to give perks for tag teaming, but what about the guy who has to fight the gang?  Certainly more perk worthy than what you propose.

Being rewarded for inflicting damage isn't an overly bad idea.  It is how they go about implementing it that is the doozy.  But think for a moment, if HTC were to implement it, I would HIGHLY DOUBT that it would be in a manner that would result in this.  The reward would be just enough that a player gets something for their hits, but not enough to "farm" it.  Personally, I don't care. :)  Getting in there and shooting up stuff is fun, whether I get the kill or not. :aok
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2015, 04:57:01 PM »
Being rewarded for inflicting damage isn't an overly bad idea

You already get a reward for it.
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2015, 05:09:36 PM »
You already get a reward for it.
Score.

You can't use score for anything other than impressing the ladies and controlling CVs.  Now while impressing the ladies is of paramount importance to some, a lot of us prefer our rewards in the form of something that is useful, like perks. ;)

I think everybody pinging the victim getting a share of the perks is a terrible idea, maybe the top 2 or 3 damage dealers?

Honestly I don't think it'd be worth the coding but if they were looking to change it, that's what I'd do.

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2015, 05:12:27 PM »
You already get a reward for it.
Score.

Ha!  What is score? :D
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2015, 07:41:43 PM »
Then its sad, because in other Sims i ve played i ve rarely seen players running after the burning plane to steal a kill in front of all others...
I thought AH2 had as many grownups than other Sims...Even War Thunder, with tons of kids inside, use this system and almost dont have kill stealers (i mean ppl who WANT to steal, not those who play like mad dogs running after a car sometimes...) :confused:

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2015, 08:23:45 PM »
Then its sad, because in other Sims i ve played i ve rarely seen players running after the burning plane to steal a kill in front of all others...
I thought AH2 had as many grownups than other Sims...Even War Thunder, with tons of kids inside, use this system and almost dont have kill stealers (i mean ppl who WANT to steal, not those who play like mad dogs running after a car sometimes...) :confused:

You're obviously relatively new to this game, or at the least you never played AH prior to the change on who gets the kill credit.

Here is a tip...improve your gunnery skills and you won't have to worry about people stealing your kills or getting an assist.
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2015, 08:29:44 PM »
You can't use score for anything other than impressing the ladies and controlling CVs.  Now while impressing the ladies is of paramount importance to some, a lot of us prefer our rewards in the form of something that is useful, like perks. ;)

I think everybody pinging the victim getting a share of the perks is a terrible idea, maybe the top 2 or 3 damage dealers?

Honestly I don't think it'd be worth the coding but if they were looking to change it, that's what I'd do.

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2015, 09:01:52 PM »
Then its sad, because in other Sims i ve played i ve rarely seen players running after the burning plane to steal a kill in front of all others...
I thought AH2 had as many grownups than other Sims...Even War Thunder, with tons of kids inside, use this system and almost dont have kill stealers (i mean ppl who WANT to steal, not those who play like mad dogs running after a car sometimes...) :confused:

Oh?  I see it quite a lot in WT.
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2015, 03:16:10 AM »
2 Words, "Kill Stealer"!

this would be a bad thing to impliment because If i load a target with rounds first and someone comes in with a ping right before he goes into the ground.  I would get angry.  :bhead :bhead
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2015, 05:36:24 AM »
Well, you must admit that, 95% of time, the last shooter is the one who really knocked the enemy plane out with a wing off/fuel ignition/pilot kill/etc... :rock

2 Words, "Kill Stealer"!

this would be a bad thing to impliment because If i load a target with rounds first and someone comes in with a ping right before he goes into the ground.  I would get angry.  :bhead :bhead

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2015, 09:41:38 AM »
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2015, 11:38:06 AM »
Well, you must admit that, 95% of time, the last shooter is the one who really knocked the enemy plane out with a wing off/fuel ignition/pilot kill/etc... :rock

Well of course it was the last guy that shot since it was there when he fired and then the wing came off.  If, however it takes 100 50 cals to take off that wing and someone else has hit it 99 times do you think the guy that put one bullet in it deserves the kill?
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2015, 02:40:56 PM »
I think that if the 99 "previous damage" didnt down the enemy plane, then NO he doesnt deserve the kill as the job isnt done : Job is to shoot down a plane, not to damage it. Without the guy who did the necessary remaining (1 or 100%) damage, the enemy plane would still be flying and dangerous.

You should be awarded the kill because u downed the plane, not because "u did more damage", thats obvious... :rock

Well of course it was the last guy that shot since it was there when he fired and then the wing came off.  If, however it takes 100 50 cals to take off that wing and someone else has hit it 99 times do you think the guy that put one bullet in it deserves the kill?

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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2015, 02:55:43 PM »
Here is a tip...improve your gunnery skills and you won't have to worry about people stealing your kills or getting an assist.

This is a good tip.

Now the real question is, who was Interceptor trying to shoot down when he failed to get the kill?  :D
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Re: Grant the "kill" to the last shooter
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2015, 03:00:22 PM »
Doesn't pilot wound trump any plane damage? 

An example.  If I give the red a pilot wound but his plane flies off without a problem, then my fellow country man can take his wing off sending the red spiraling into the ground but I still get the kill.  Right?